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    Post by Teramotos Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:22 pm

    ...and the adventure continues!  After discovering the power behind the giant uprisings, the party will head toward the depths of the under dark in an effort to bring down the two houses of drow who must be powering the black sphere that is engulfing the city and the lands around it.

    I'm thinking I'll stick with my current format, giving everyone a chance to play.  I'll write each adventure or adventure segment and then run the adventure twice with a Team 1 and a Team 2.

    If players want to take this opportunity to switch to a new PC, you may.  Starting new PCs would be 14th level, non-evil, and would have a 16th Level Item, a 15th Level Item and a 14th Level Item and enough gold to purchase an additional 14th Level item to purchase any normal equipment and other items of Level 13 or less.  If you intend on making a new PC, please post them in people, places and things.  Also, after you level up to 14th, please post your updated PC in people, places and things.  

    Around Oct 10th, I'm running a Newport Knights adventure for Kobe's group so it may be quite a while before we kick off the under dark series...

    Maybe Ken and Mick can finish making out their adventures...and we can continue to play in Ross' Zombie series... :-)


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    Post by Dwarmaj Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:36 pm

    Hmm, looks like new PC get a lot more than the existing ones...

    Not sure how much gold each PC gets, but in the whole series I received one level 14 item at the very end and all of my current items are level 13 or less...
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    Post by Teramotos Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:02 am

    Well it remains to be seen how much loot the teams received. Waiting for posts from Ross and Steven.


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    Post by Arthur Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:22 am

    If I take a feat that allows me to craft magic items 2 levels higher than my current level can I craft magic items up to 16th level for myself?

    Also for new characters can we use Themes? It was something that showed up in the payed for Character Builder but I do not see in the old version.
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    Post by Teramotos Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:33 am

    What do Themes do?

    Yes, if you're willing to burn a feat, I'd be inclined to say you could craft your own items of 16th or less (you would still have to spend the gold). I'd not allow you to craft items for others as a general rule as I don't want to get into tracking non-adventuring time. If others wish to obtain a specific item of 16th or higher, they can attempt to gather information on it and go on an adventure for it. If the PC wants a specific item, if there's some game based reason Raistlin would create an item for that other PC, I might consider allowing such on an exception basis.


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    Post by Dwarmaj Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:33 pm

    Themes were an optional part of 4.0 that we've been using. The 'old' builder we're using doesn't support them and many other class options...)

    https://dnd4.fandom.com/wiki/Character_theme

    Some examples are:
    Sohei (1/encounter minor action attack)
    Beast Tamer (beast companion like Espirits displacer beast or Wii's owlbear)
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    Post by Teramotos Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:53 pm

    If you have the source document or rule book that defines the Theme, you may use the Theme.


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    Post by Arthur Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:58 pm

    Would the offline Compendium for 4e be sufficient?
    Below is a link to one of the compendiums themes

    http://iws.mx/dnd/?view=theme921
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    Post by Teramotos Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:55 am

    Yes, the Compendium would be sufficient.


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    Post by PlaguePixie Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:07 pm

    Themes are in the offline builder if you have it fully updated
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    Post by Mick Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:11 pm

    I don't think I have the fully updated version of the CB. Don't have access to content like the PHB 3.
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    Post by PlaguePixie Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:24 pm

    I can post my stuff here if that doesnt break any rules, or i could show you next time we meet in person
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    Post by PlaguePixie Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:25 pm

    Also since im on, i emailed Stuart with some questions about the loot, but i can post it here too in case i missed anything.
    ross if you send me your notes i can add stuff for the other team; once the questions are answered and everything is added we will have our amounts.
    please let me know any adjustments that are needed


    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b_0kGlhDKfKUd8D3Q7OGo-rbEyYXAfm85hj9JonUihI/edit?usp=sharing
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    Post by Arthur Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:53 pm

    I can answer a few of those questions.

    The fire giants cloak was another unique magic item made from Hellhounds.
    The Orb of Ice and the Firewalkers ring are both Unique Magic items.
    The Iron Weave bowstring is another unique magic item.
    All of these Unique magic items are listed in People Places and Things under Against the Giants unique magic items.

    This is excepting the Hellhound cloak as Stuart has not added that one to the list yet.
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    Post by Teramotos Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:26 pm

    added the Hell Hound Hide to People Places and Things... st


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    Post by PlaguePixie Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:36 pm

    ok so do all these unique items have a value?

    how much do we get for the ransom of the prisoner?

    also i guess i need Ross' notes
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    Post by Dwarmaj Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:11 pm

    We also have the Rod of Seven Parts (part 1).
    Espirit currently has possession of it, but can't use it since he can't use rods. (it was originally described as part of a staff...)

    Classes that can use Rods are (Artificer, Invoker, and Warlocks).
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    Post by Teramotos Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:34 am

    ... the party can arbitrarily assign their best guess as to the value of the unique items.
    ...remind me again of the prisoner...
    ...hmmm... darn, have an artifact and can't use it.


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    Post by PlaguePixie Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:16 pm

    Ok, I have updated the spreadsheet with my guess for values as well as Ross' totals for frost and fire missions. If anyone has any concerns please let me know and i can adjust.

    The final missing piece is the prisoner ransom. This is from the early missions in the hill giant fortress. We (both groups) found a series of jail cells with orc slaves, undead mages, an elven female fighter, the architect of the fortress and a nobleman/merchant. The merchant said he would reward us for rescuing him. the elven woman escorted him and the architect back to safety and he said he would send us a reward when he got back.
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    Post by Teramotos Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:42 pm

    The merchant sends the group 10,000 GP... (in gems) and it arrives by courier, a small group of lesser adventurers.


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    Post by PlaguePixie Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:45 pm

    ok i have this updated, take a look at the worksheet, if there are no concerns then its done
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    Post by PlaguePixie Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:51 pm

    alright so i guess everyone is ok with these totals. keep in mind if you were in the group that got totals from Ross that is included here, dont add them together.

    Stuart can we get clarification on what we can buy? what to we have to do to "go on an adventure" to get a level 16 item? does that mean we can just buy stuff lower than 16?
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    Post by Teramotos Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:39 am

    All PC's may purchase any item of your level, 14, or lower. Artifact and unique items may not be purchased. I suppose if someone has a piece of the Rod of Seven parts, I'll let them trade it for any item of 16th level or lower.

    For other 16th level items, yes, include in "In Game Banter" what item your PC is looking for and I'll attempt to include it into a future adventure.



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    Post by Krystoff Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:26 pm

    Sorry I am a little late on this but I have a few questions on the spreadsheet for group 2.

    First is what is my share of the total?

    Second I think I know the answer to but I want to make sure. There are a few items that aren't on the sheet that were handed out in the adventure but they are items that could never be sold for gold. For instance I got 2 of the "turn an item into a higher plus" loot. They had to be used immediately so they couldn't be sold.

    Third I think some of the conversion to gold prices (Column C I am assuming is all in gold) are off. Cell D18 is electrum and since 4E doesn't actually have electrum I will use the conversion from 5E which means C18 should be 3500 gold not 7000. On the flip side the platinum rows (D9, D36, D52) aren't multiplied by 10. I think all the other prices look good as they are all converted to gold.

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    Post by PlaguePixie Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:26 am

    Hey Chris, thanks for looking at the spreadsheet, I really appreciate it.

    1) Each person's share is totaled in row 76 (the purple grand total row) in the column with their name (yours is column 'G' so 'G76' has your amount).

    2) I wrote down all the loot I had in my notes. I may have missed what you are referring to, but it doesn't sound like there would be a good way to assign value to that so I'm fine with leaving it off unless someone else has a suggestion of how to incorporate it. Some of the other items we found i assigned no value to, like the potions and trophies as it just doesn't seem that important to be quite that granular imo.

    3) I interpreted Stuarts comments on loot to be already converted. i.e. we did not find 7000 pieces of electrum, rather we found 7000 gold worth of electrum pieces, however many that would be. Stuart if this is not the case let me know and i will use Chris' conversions.
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    Post by Ross Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:32 am

    I think what you did was fine. Yes, I excluded items from gold liquidation if people decided to take specific ones, and all the ones Kazoo took, since we had to decide who was holding it, liquidated all of that (which is very uncharacteristic of Kazoo) to come up with the gold total. For group one, I say just keep what you were given and just split the gold, as we've already done to keep it simple.
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    Post by Krystoff Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:35 pm

    No problem on checking it out, sorry it took so long.

    1) My total on G76 shows that I get 431,190 gold out of the total gold of 713,876. If you look at Mickey next to me he shows he got 373,190 out of the total of 713,876 but between the two of us we got more than the total. I believe there should be another column that shows what the share should be. IE For row 8 which is 23,000 gold the 6 people that went on the adventure should get 3833.33 gold allocated. Then in your formula row you can SUMIFS the new share column and everyone will tie out to the total gold received.

    2) That makes absolute sense and I am good with that too.

    3) That also make sense and Stuart will need to chime in but I doubt he meant it my way since that would add hundreds of thousands of gold to the total.

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    Post by PlaguePixie Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:10 pm

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    Post by Teramotos Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:51 pm

    7000 GP worth of Electrum... :-)


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