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    Post by Dwarmaj Sat May 12, 2012 11:22 pm

    There are a few items that are pretty powerful against undead and because we run into so many undead I was wondering if they'd be too powerful.

    Weapon of Disruption:

    I know this only affects minions, but if someone could multi-attack (or shift attack multiple targets), then this could wipe out quite a few undead minions automatically.

    Other powerfull items would be the Ghostlight Candle and possibly items that give 10+ resist Necrotic.

    Thoughts...
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    Post by Teramotos Sun May 13, 2012 1:52 am

    The mace, which takes out minions, is way less powerful than the Belt. There are quite a few items which can take out multiple minions at once. The mace really only becomes "powerful" against "really tough" minions, ones that would ordinarily be difficult to hit. I see the mace as a kind of magic missile for melee types, but only against undead, of course.

    Now, in the WAR! series, 95% of the time, when there was damage of a certain "type", it was almost always one of three; poison, fire, or radiant (and sometimes necrotic). So, because of this, do items that give resistance to one of these damages become too powerful?


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    Post by Dwarmaj Sun May 13, 2012 7:36 am

    1 of 3 types is quite a bit different than 9 out of 10 Necrotic...

    I guess that's one of the drawbacks of having a campaign centered around one type of monster.


    I wouldn't say the mace is way less powerful, just powerful in a different way. A powerful defensive item has little impact on the monsters (by it self...), it just keeps a PC alive longer. The mace actually removes monsters from the board, when combined with multi attacks or if used as an implement (certain class combos) for area blasts it can make short work of an encounter.
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    Post by Ross Sun May 13, 2012 9:25 am

    I think it depends on what you consider powerful. If your fighting undead minions, its powerful. If not, useless.

    Big difference between being unkillable to all but one monster (mind flayers) vs being able to kill minions automatically (which are meant to die quick anyway.


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    Post by Teramotos Sun May 13, 2012 11:39 am

    ...and I think the power of the mace, from a gaming perspective, is highly acentuated in that in the Buffyverse series, the party doesn't have either a true Controller (e.g. a Wizard!) or other character with At Will or multiple Encounter Powers that affect large areas (e.g. minion killers). Everyone in the party is a Slayer (errr...I meant Striker/Defender - same thing, right?) - many in our gaming group like Strikers and Denfenders (and Leaders), not too many playing Controllers.


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    Post by Dwarmaj Sun May 13, 2012 11:44 am

    Ember is a wizard...
    Ash is a sorcerer with an area AtWill...

    I was hoping to put the mace on my wish list as it goes with a couple of combos I have.
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    Post by Mick Mon May 14, 2012 9:13 am

    the party doesn't have either a true Controller (e.g. a Wizard!) or other character with At Will or multiple Encounter Powers that affect large areas (e.g. minion killers).

    I may not show up to all the adventures but Ember does her job when she's there.
    Her main at-will is a blast 2, if hit enemies can't take opportunity attacks and are -2 to attackes (oh and it's effects enemies only).

    Most of her power are area attackes and she does damage like a striker. They likely effect all but she is -5 to allies and they only take half damage if hit. Let me know what you're look for in a wizard and I'll try and build her to your standards.

    If she's not needed I can switch to my Avenger PC I've built.
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    Post by Teramotos Mon May 14, 2012 8:20 pm

    ...no slight intended to Ember...the more minions the better for a typical controller. When Ember is present, the group gains an otherwise nearly absent dimension; that's all. Feel free to play whichever PC you want to play the most...


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