The Ice Box

Ross wrote:Can't Mick get cold protection from Vyrellis?

No, Vyrellis doesn't provide any resistances.

Can Miri cast some sort of ritual to provide one person protection?

Do we achieve a 5 minute rest? If so, if Kaddim needs to use his last surge, Sonya will use one of her Inspiring Words to give him 2d6 additional hits. If there is a second party member that is down about seven or eight hits more than a surge, Sonya will offer to Inspiring Word them also. Then Sonya will see if she can rest another five minutes.

We still need to question the demon Stu.

can't you question the demon while resting?

I'm not saying we need to question him instead of resting, I'm just stating we need to question him still.

Teramotos wrote:Can Miri cast some sort of ritual to provide one person protection?

I asked about that right after we went in... 'endure elements' only works on non-magical temps, and this is magical.

Dwarmaj wrote:Vyrellis: (a bit anoyed)

Of course he knew me by name, I am the queen and former wife of Karavakos.

Karavakos had many demons under his command, so it is not unlikely they would know of me.

I tire of these questions. If you want my assistance, and you will need my assistance, I suggest we move on.

Oh and did anyone think to check for treasure in the ice room? That was the reason you went there correct?

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Miri: "Yeah, but hon, we already knew who you were... that doesn't exactly explain why he blames you for trapping him in here, nor why he would recognize you in the orb versus your Eladerin body. Are you saying that you don't recognize him at all? What happened that would get him so worked up at you?"

bradly wrote:
Miri: "Yeah, but hon, we already knew who you were... that doesn't exactly explain why he blames you for trapping him in here, nor why he would recognize you in the orb versus your Eladerin body. Are you saying that you don't recognize him at all? What happened that would get him so worked up at you?"

The orb is silent, and Vyrellis' head cannot be seen...

The demon, Trathkul, tells the party that not long after he was trapped in the pyramid he led a group to try to find a way out.
The witch Danna, who wielded Vyrellis at the time, told me that there was much treasure to be had in that frozen room (he points over to the ice room). Danna told me that Vyrellis gave her the information.

I figured my resistances would protect me, but there was a trap placed in there that bound my body, but my mind was awake for what seemed like an eternity. Once I destroy Vyrellis, that witch Danna will be next.

Have you seen Danna? She uses many forms, but is very sly and pleasing to the eye.

Dwarmaj wrote:The demon, Trathkul, tells the party...

Good job not killing the Demon, he did have some interesting info for us. Miri & Candelos (& Vyrellis) aren't there, but I suggest finding out if Trathkul think Danna was duped by V, or a co-conspirator, and what was trapping Trathkul in the ice room.

Note: As a refresher, Danna was Kaddim's hottie gf that we freed who vanished right after we disarmed the Demon minion trap...

bradly wrote:
Note: As a refresher, Danna was Kaddim's hottie gf that we freed who vanished right after we disarmed the Demon minion trap...

Correct...

...so, how are we going to find the treasure in the ice room? Do the people who have the most surges left go in and take a look around? Remember if we get two or three five minute rests, Sonya can add 2d6 to each surge you do use.

We can always have brad make a resistance to cold item.

...but I don't think we'll get an extended rest to do so. Maybe after the next extended rest we can loot this treasure. Do we know any allied creatures who can stand the cold? Otherwise, if we're going to meet more encounters, only the party members with more than a couple surges can search the room.

Trathkul just spent by his words 'an eternity' trapped in that very room under the lure of treasure. I say that is NOT where we go next and instead look for the passage to the second level. If we later choose to come back, we know where it is, and by then we can have crafted cold resistance items.

I also think we should find out what trapped Demon boy in there, what other info he knows, and then let him go to hunt down Danna...

...hmmm
[quote]Brad wrote: Trathkul just spent by his words 'an eternity' trapped in that very room under the lure of treasure. I say that is NOT where we go next and instead look for the passage to the second level. If we later choose to come back, we know where it is, and by then we can have crafted cold resistance items.

I also think we should find out what trapped Demon boy in there, what other info he knows, and then let him go to hunt down Danna...[quote]

I'm okay with that, but what do we do with the demon?

We should bring him back with the other allies we have so far. We are all in the same boat, and everyone wants to get out.

Actually I think we should move allies up closer into the maze, so they are only a couple of rooms back from us, basically moving them closer to the front lines. Then they can see how far we are progressing, and we won't have to travel way the hell back to get extended rests. I don't think they should be close enough to help us in fights though.

Did the demon ever find any treasure in the room? Or see where treasure might be kept?

What did we see of the chamber while fighting the demon or did he block the line of sight?

I actually teleported into the doorway of the room, so I should have seen inside of it. Ken never described it though, due to the heat of battle.

Ross wrote:I actually teleported into the doorway of the room, so I should have seen inside of it. Ken never described it though, due to the heat of battle.

The room the demon was in looked the same as the one with the undead. Where each monster broke free of the pilar was piles of ice.

Trathkul tells the party that he never saw any treasure.

Dwarmaj wrote:Trathkul tells the party that he never saw any treasure.

Since Trathkul is with Kaddim, Thia, & Sonya, I think if one of their passive insights tell them he's telling us the whole truth, we simply let him go, possibly with the info on where we last saw Danna. Candelos & Miri are in a seperate room with Vyrellis, so what to do with the Demon, and what you tell Vyrellis, is really up to you three.

But I agree with Ross, we're all in the same boat, so having freed and released the Demon, he's really not an enemy. I wouldn't put him with Ferrence & co, because to Vyrellis' point, he is still a Demon, so also not really an ally... I say let him go. He had no wicked spells, not many hits, and his strongest asset was his high defenses, but we're about to advance so we'll be better able to handle him next time we meet, and so he's not that big a threat to us...

So, what will the party do next?

Kaddim, Thia, and Sonya aren't the most insightful (Thia has the highest insight with 19 passive), but don't believe the demon is lying.

He would much rather be let go than to be kept a prisoner by the party or others. (no surprise there...)


The map the party has shows stairs up to the north...

I would like to rest before we go up the stairs but I don't know if that will be possible.

Krystoff wrote:I would like to rest before we go up the stairs but I don't know if that will be possible.

The party has already taken a short rest.

I'll assume the party will attempt a long rest... It is interrupted by visions of Karavakos leading his army to defeat by creatures of the Feywild.

Maybe some should ask the Demon how to destroy the orb if it becomes necessary?

Mick wrote:Maybe some should ask the Demon how to destroy the orb if it becomes necessary?

Candelos takes 2hp of damage from a psychic jolt from Vyrellis.

Vyrellis:

I can't believe you're even considering what that demon $*&^) has to say. Have I not helped you and your party?


Talk about ungrateful, just toss me back into the sahuagin pool, at least Sheethu knows how to treat a Queen.

Note: The party never got the names of any of the sahuagin ...

Sonya says we attempt a second short rest and any who wish to use an additional surge can get an extra 2d6 hits. Condition of the party please.

With Kaddim and Thia's agreement, Sonya will use her high diplomacy and tell the demon if he tells us exactly how to destroy Vyrellis and the Orb, if we have to do such, then we will let him go about his way as long as he doesn't attack our allies to the south (e.g. the bandits). I say we go up the stairs when we're rested. (i.e. short rest)

It should be allies to our south which are the bandits, the tree guys, and the water humanoids.

Teramotos wrote:Sonya says we attempt a second short rest and any who wish to use an additional surge can get an extra 2d6 hits. Condition of the party please.

With Kaddim and Thia's agreement, Sonya will use her high diplomacy and tell the demon if he tells us exactly how to destroy Vyrellis and the Orb, if we have to do such, then we will let him go about his way as long as he doesn't attack our allies to the south (e.g. the bandits). I say we go up the stairs when we're rested. (i.e. short rest)

Current PC status:
Kaddim 37/73hp with 1/11 surges, 1AP
Candelos 64/72hp with 4/14 surges, 1AP
Miri 54/54hp with 6/9 surges, 1AP
Thia 59/60hp with 4/7 surges, 1AP
Sonya 53/61hp with 1/9 surges, 1AP

Teramotos wrote:
With Kaddim and Thia's agreement, Sonya will use her high diplomacy and tell the demon if he tells us exactly how to destroy Vyrellis and the Orb, if we have to do such, then we will let him go about his way as long as he doesn't attack our allies to the south (e.g. the bandits). I say we go up the stairs when we're rested. (i.e. short rest)

Trathkul tells Miri, Kaddim, and Sonya... To destroy the orb you must remove it from the Pyramid without the life force fragments that belong to Vyrellis. Once that is done, the orb can be destroyed like any other magical orb.

After Kaddim, Thia and Sonya let the demon go (assuming that Kaddim and Thia agreed with Sonya), Sonya will recommend to Candelos that he use Lay on Hands to heal Kaddim some more. (This way, Kaddim can still have one of his own surges left that Sonya can activate to get Kaddim back up, should Kaddim go below zero). If one of Candelos' Lay on Hands surges isn't enough, we'll have to decide if Kaddim will use his last surge (w Sonya's help for 2d6 extra) or Candelos will use another Lay on Hands, or Kaddim will just have to go into the next battle low.

During the discussions with the demon and how to destroy the orb, Sonya will make sure Candelos is out of ear shot and that Sonya is not using OhOm.

ST

Thia isn't too happy about letting the demon go. It goes against her nature. She will go along with the group.

So far Vyrellis hasn't steered us wrong and has helped us in battle. She is trying to get out of here just like the rest of us.

candelos agrees, she has done nothing to loose our trust.
I say to her I'm sorry I doulted you.
I say we must be on edge because of lack of a good rest.

Krystoff wrote:...So far Vyrellis hasn't steered us wrong and has helped us in battle...

Miri (using 'ghost sound' to whisper so Candelos cannot hear):

Only possibly true. If we're to believe Trathkul, he was lured into the ice room trap with the promise of treasure from V, and she hinted to us a couple times to go after that same unfound treasure. If any of us get stuck in that room w/out cold resistance, we're dead. Also, someone trapped Danna (who used to weild the orb) before we freed her...

So...
Is the plan to let the demon go and head north? Did the party want to take another short rest and use Sonya Inspiring Words, or just head north and use them in battle?

Dwarmaj wrote:So...
Is the plan to let the demon go and head north?

I believe the plan is head north, but after a 2nd extended rest using Candelos' lay on hands instead of Sonya's inspiring word, so Kaddim has a surge left 'if' we run into another encounter.

Standard order, what's up the stairs?

Agree with Brad...we should attempt to save Kaddim's last surge in case we run into something...
To get Kaddim closer to max, it would be best is Candelos used Lay On Hands and then we took another 5 minute rest so he has that power for the next battle.

From the current conditions of the party, no one will benefit from an Inspiring Word outside of battle except Kaddim, who really shouldn't use his last surge. Instead of the "standard" order, Sonya suggests that Candelos take point with Thia. Miri and Sonya next and Kaddim in the rear... thoughts?

I don't think so.
Lay-on-hands is a daily power
He doesn't get more for a 5 min rest.


Lay on Hands Paladin Feature.
At-Will (Special) ✦ Divine, Healing
Special: You can use this power a number of times per day
equal to your Wisdom modifier (minimum 1), but only once
per round.
Minor Action Melee touch
Target: One creature
Effect: You spend a healing surge but regain no hit points.
Instead, the target regains hit points as if it had spent a
healing surge. You must have at least one healing surge
remaining to use this power.

darn it...
Okay then, we'll use an Inspiring Word to get Kaddim back up as far as we can. He'll be w/o surges for the next battle.

I should have known that too. I used to play a Paladin...