Mirrored Hallway

I think it's Candelos' turn...

Hellsword #2 (the one west of Kaddim) moves around into flanking position and swings on Kaddim.

Greatsword 15 vs AC miss

Hellsword #3 (the one to the south) shifts SW, then charges Thia. Miri gets an AoO.

Miri's AoO 32 vs Ac (critical) hits for 13hp

The Hellsword is able to attack Miri and Thia on his charge attack.

Hellsword Greatsword attack on Miri 22 vs Ac miss
Hellsword Greatsword attack on Thia 19 vs Ac miss




Quinn's turn...

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Sorry about getting the order wrong. Quinn's turn, okay.
Holy smokes we got lucky, the charging Hellsword misses the mage and the ranger and take a crit from the mage in the process?

Miri's AoO 32 vs Ac (critical) hits for 13hp

Cool! But Miri's damage should be 1d8 for staff +5 Int +2 item bonus, for 15 hp damage on a critical, plus the staff of defense's power is an extra 2d8 (instead of 2d6). Miri should have done somewhere between 4 more to 18 more hp damage on her critical...

bradly wrote:Miri's AoO 32 vs Ac (critical) hits for 13hp

Cool! But Miri's damage should be 1d8 for staff +5 Int +2 item bonus, for 15 hp damage on a critical, plus the staff of defense's power is an extra 2d8 (instead of 2d6). Miri should have done somewhere between 4 more to 18 more hp damage on her critical...

Miri holds a longsword in her main hand and uses it for melee attacks. She holds a staff in her off-hand and uses it as an implement when casting spells. To use a Q-Staff as a weapon requires two hands, but only one hand to use it as an implement.

Note:
Miri was created before several rules/feats came out. At the time the only way to Int modifier for attack/damage was to multiclass to swordmage and take the Intelligent Bladmaster feat. Also, the rules also changed and now it is possible to wield two staves as implemnts.

If I were creating Miri from scratch now I would modify her feats as follows.

Feats:
Wizard Ritual Caster
Human Armor Prof (Leather)
1st Reapers Touch
2nd Armor Prof (Hide)
4th Focused Expertise (Staff)
6th Weapon Focus (Staff)
8th White Lotus Riposte


With these changes Miri would use Magic Missile through her implement as a melee basic attack and would be +12 vs Ref 2d4+10 damage in melee and ranged attacks if wielding a Staff of Ruin +2/Staff of Defense +1.

Dwarmaj wrote:Miri holds a longsword in her main hand and uses it for melee attacks. She holds a staff in her off-hand and uses it as an implement when casting spells. To use a Q-Staff as a weapon requires two hands, but only one hand to use it as an implement.

That doesn't make sense to me... I was planning on Miri only doing this after she's used her shield spell & staff of defense power to get the sword warding ability (as she did in the CL pit). After 11th, when she goes 'Wizard of the Spiral Tower', she plans on dropping the staff altogether, upgrade to a magical longsword, & just wield a longsword. Until then, why would she ever weild both as a norm?

"Intelligent Blademaster", while having 'blade' in the title, only says:

Intelligent Blademaster
Tier: Heroic
Prerequisites: Swordmage
You can use your Intelligence modifier (+5) instead of your Strength modifier (+1) when making a basic attack with a melee weapon.

Miri can use her Int for both weapons, both do 1d8, she gives up +1 to hit (because the proficiency bonus differences are +2 or +3), but gains +2 to hit for magic staff netting an extra +1 to hit. She also gets a +2 magic weapon bonus to damage with the staff. Net result: same basic weapon damage, more bonus to hit and more bonus to damage, plus the bonus of +2d8 when critical hit... at the very least, please consider Miri's sword sheathed in the future unless I post otherwise and all future AoO to be with the staff. (Unless I'm missing something?)

Dwarmaj wrote:If I were creating Miri from scratch now I would modify her feats as follows.

Feats:
Wizard Ritual Caster
Human Armor Prof (Leather)
1st Reapers Touch
2nd Armor Prof (Hide)
4th Focused Expertise (Staff)
6th Weapon Focus (Staff)
8th White Lotus Riposte


With these changes Miri would use Magic Missile through her implement as a melee basic attack and would be +12 vs Ref 2d4+10 damage in melee and ranged attacks if wielding a Staff of Ruin +2/Staff of Defense +1.

I like the longsword/Swordmage build, especially for when she's 11th. But why go the 'Reaper's Touch' route with Miri? Magic Missles do 2d4+Int and her longsword or staff does 1d8+Int. That's only a half a hit point different on average for the cost of a whole feat since she already has 'Intelligent Blademaster', and that half hit point damage only applies when she's in melee. Plus, she loses her +3 proficiency bonus to attack rolls using her LS as a weapon vs impliment. I love that feat for most squishies, but I don't see it's advantages for Miri.

Currently Quinn's turn...

Reaping Strike same target as before

Quinn's turn:
Standard: Reaping Strike 27-2(cover) vs AC hits for 16hp of damage.

Creeper's turn:
Creeper swings at Candelos 22 vs AC miss

Creeper #1 swings at Kaddim 22 vs AC miss

Creeper #2 throws a dagger at Quinn 12 vs AC miss

Hellsword #1's turn
Swing on Quinn 25-2(cover) vs AC hits for 8hp of damage and ongoing fire damage.

Flaming Skull's turn
Fire Ray at Quinn 19 vs Ref hits for 13hp of fire damage.

Candelos' turn
Holy Strike on creeper 17-2(cover) vs AC miss

Here's the current map:


Sonya's turn

Current PC Status is:
Sonya 52/61hp 7/9 surges
Candelos 40/72hp 14/14 surges
Kaddim 53/73hp 11/11 surges
Quinn 21/73hp 11/11 surges
Miri 44/54hp 9/9 surges
Thia 50/60hp 7/7 surges

Move Action - Move 1 square SE, 2 squares E, 1 square NE and then 1 square N so I end up East of Quinn.

Minor Action- Rousing Words on Quinn. He spends two of his surges and gains 5 additional hits.

Standard Action - Brash Assault on Creeper in front of Quinn.
I strike + 13 (-2 for cover + 11) vs. AC 1d12+6.
Creeper can then strike at me (if it is still up) w combat advantage (AC 25+2 for cover = 27).
If Creeper strikes at me, Quinn strikes at it with combat advantage with a basic attack.

Free Action: Say "Miri, Thia, do you need help?"
Done...

...are Thia and Miri next?

Teramotos wrote:Move Action - Move 1 square SE, 2 squares E, 1 square NE and then 1 square N so I end up East of Quinn.

Minor Action- Rousing Words on Quinn. He spends two of his surges and gains 5 additional hits.

Standard Action - Brash Assault on Creeper in front of Quinn.
I strike + 13 (-2 for cover + 11) vs. AC 1d12+6.
Creeper can then strike at me (if it is still up) w combat advantage (AC 25+2 for cover = 27).
If Creeper strikes at me, Quinn strikes at it with combat advantage with a basic attack.

Free Action: Say "Miri, Thia, do you need help?"
Done...

...are Thia and Miri next?

Brash Assult is melee range and you can't see the Creeper since the door is closed.

Note: The door north of Quinn is closed. The door north of Candelos is open.


The PC initiative order is:
Quinn
Candelos
Sonya
Thia
Miri
Kaddim

Okay, since I didn't know the door was closed...
Minor Action - (same) Rousing Word on Quinn
Move Action - 2 Sq E then 2 Sq N. Creeper gets AoO but I left a square where I had cover so I think I get + 2 to AC. I end up south of HS # 1.
Standard Action - Hammer and Anvil on HS # 1. + 13 vs Reflex for 1d12+6 damage. Kaddim gets a free action basic attack vs. HS # 1 with + 5 to damage.
Free Action - Same - (ask Thia/ Miri if they need help).
Done...

Teramotos wrote:Okay, since I didn't know the door was closed...
Minor Action - (same) Rousing Word on Quinn
Move Action - 2 Sq E then 2 Sq N. Creeper gets AoO but I left a square where I had cover so I think I get + 2 to AC. I end up south of HS # 1.
Standard Action - Hammer and Anvil on HS # 1. + 13 vs Reflex for 1d12+6 damage. Kaddim gets a free action basic attack vs. HS # 1 with + 5 to damage.
Free Action - Same - (ask Thia/ Miri if they need help).
Done...

Sorry, you can't move through Candelos square since he is currently not considered an ally...

Okay, I'll try again.
Minor Action - (same) Rousing Word on Quinn.
Move Action - Move 1 Sq SE, then 1 Sq E.
Standard Action - Throw Throwing Shield at HS # 1. + 10 vs. AC 1d8+4
Free Action - Same as before (asking Thia/ Miri if they need help)
done...

Sonya moves and throws her shield 20-2(cover from Candelos since he's not an ally...) vs AC miss

Current Map


Thia's turn, them Miri and Kaddim


Hmm, since you missed due to cover, does that mean you have a chance to hit the cover?

Thia will use her Serpentskin armor as a move action to shift three squares north.

Keep HQ on the bloodied one and use Biting Volley to try and take him down. If one of them misses, use elven reroll to try and hit.

Biting Volley
Attack: Dexterity vs. Reflex, two attacks. Each
attack can score a critical hit on a roll of 18–20.
Hit: 1[W] + Dexterity modifier (+5) damage per
attack.
Prime Shot Greatbow +2: +13 attack, 1d12+10
damage

To Sonya: If Miri and I can stay away from him we should be fine but if he does to one of us what they did to Candelos we might be in trouble.

When it's my turn I will:
Move: Shift 1 square South.
Standard: Sword Burst to hit all 4 around me.

Note: the ones I hit will be effected by
White Lotus Hindrance
When you hit an enemy with an arcane at-will attack power, that enemy treats all squares adjacent to you as difficult terrain until the end of your next turn.

Hmm...I guess the question is, the "cover" is in the way so does it have a chance to get hit? The rules are not clear on this. I say that if the miss is due to the cover, then in the spirit of 4.0 simplification, there is no chance to hit anything else.

If others disagree and there is a chance to hit the cover, I think there would be a second (separate) attack roll. Discuss...

I didn't see any rules for hitting cover like in 3.5 so for now, there's no chance to hit cover.


Thia's turn:
Activate armor (daily item usage) and shift 3 squares.
Standard: Biting Volley on Hellsword #1 (both attacks)
BV #1 32 vs Ref (critical) hit 22+11+8HQ damage 41hp total (Hellsword #1 falls)
BV #2 16 vs Ref miss

Miri's turn...

Dwarmaj wrote:Miri's turn...

Move action: shift 1 sq N
Standard action: cast Bigby's Icy Grasp in the square So of Thia & No of Hellsword (and attempt to grab Hellsword)
Minor action: If grabbed, and can be sustained in the same round it's cast, burn minor to sustain & do extra grab damage
Free action: if HS is grabbed, "I think we're okay for now, go help our boys." if not grabbed, "That depends, how bad off are the boys?"

*Can you use a minor to sustain in the same round you use a standard to grab?:
Bigby's Icy GraspEffect: You conjure a 5-foot-tall hand of ice in an unoccupied square
within range, and the hand attacks. As a move action, you can move
the hand up to 6 squares.
Attack: Intelligence vs. Reflex
Hit: 2d8 + Intelligence modifier (+4) cold damage, and the hand
grabs the target. If the target attempts to escape, the hand uses
your Fortitude or Reflex defense.
Sustain Minor: A target grabbed by the hand takes 1d8 +
Intelligence modifier (+4) cold damage when you sustain this
power. As a standard action, you can attack another target with the
hand, but it must release a target it has grabbed.

Defensive Staff +2: +9 attack, 2d8+6 damage

bradly wrote:

Dwarmaj wrote:Miri's turn...

Move action: shift 1 sq N
Standard action: cast Bigby's Icy Grasp in the square So of Thia & No of Hellsword (and attempt to grab Hellsword)
Minor action: If grabbed, and can be sustained in the same round it's cast, burn minor to sustain & do extra grab damage
Free action: if HS is grabbed, "I think we're okay for now, go help our boys." if not grabbed, "That depends, how bad off are the boys?"

*Can you use a minor to sustain in the same round you use a standard to grab?:
Bigby's Icy Grasp
Effect: You conjure a 5-foot-tall hand of ice in an unoccupied square

within range, and the hand attacks. As a move action, you can move

the hand up to 6 squares.

Attack: Intelligence vs. Reflex

Hit: 2d8 + Intelligence modifier (+4) cold damage, and the hand

grabs the target. If the target attempts to escape, the hand uses

your Fortitude or Reflex defense.

Sustain Minor: A target grabbed by the hand takes 1d8 +

Intelligence modifier (+4) cold damage when you sustain this

power. As a standard action, you can attack another target with the

hand, but it must release a target it has grabbed.

Defensive Staff +2: +9 attack, 2d8+6 damage

p278 of the PHB describes power durations sustaining powers.

No, you can't sustain a power in the same round it is cast.

I'll resolve the attacks shortly... late dinner

Dwarmaj wrote:p278 of the PHB describes power durations sustaining powers.

No, you can't sustain a power in the same round it is cast.

Ah, okay. No minor action then.

Miri's turn:
Move: Shift 1 square north
Standard: Bigby's Icy Grasp on the Hellsword to the south
Bigby 28 vs Ref hits for 12hp of cold damage.

Kaddim's turn:
Kaddim shifts south and uses Swordburst on the three enemies in range.
Hellsword 14 vs Ref miss
Creeper 32 vs Ref hits for 12hp of damage
Creeper #1 27 vs Ref hits for 12hp of damage

Both creepers are bloodied and the one to the south looks to be near death.

Hellsword's turn:
Hellsword #2 shifts and swings on Kaddim
Greatsword 15 vs AC miss

Hellsword being grabbed by Miri's power tries to escape
Athletics check vs Miri's Fort 29 success.
He uses his standard action to move (fly) to the east out of sight.

Quinn's turn...

shift and attack, reaping strike

David, I don't think you can shift to the NW, since the door is closed, Candelos (a non-ally) is blocking the way. You either have to:

Attack Candelos or
Open the door (a minor action if unlocked, a standard action if locked) and then shift diaganolly and attack or
Open the stuck door (a standard action) and then just shift w no attack (unless you use an AP) or
Bull Rush Candelos out of the way...
Ken, correct me if I'm wrong.

Teramotos wrote:David, I don't think you can shift to the NW, since the door is closed, Candelos (a non-ally) is blocking the way. You either have to:

Attack Candelos or
Open the door (a minor action if unlocked, a standard action if locked) and then shift diaganolly and attack or
Open the stuck door (a standard action) and then just shift w no attack (unless you use an AP) or
Bull Rush Candelos out of the way...
Ken, correct me if I'm wrong.

Correct.

You can't shift or move diagonally around a corner. Since the door is closed and Candelos is currently not considered an ally, you have to open the door or somehow puch Candelos out of the way to go north.

Still Quinn's turn...

bullrush door to break open

At the beginning of Quinn's turn he takes 5hp of ongoing fire damage

Standard Action: Break down the door (Str check DC20) 12+9=21 success.
Note: You can't Bull Rush a door. Bull Rush only works on enemies.


Quinn has a move and minor action remaining.


Let me know if you want to do anything else...

I can now see the target? If so I am done.

David wrote:I can now see the target? If so I am done.

Yes, you can see the target to the north.

At the end of Quinn's turn he rolled 9 and failed to save vs the ongoing fire damage.

Creeper's turn:
Creeper south of Kaddim swing on Kaddim
Dagger 23 vs AC miss

Creeper NW of Kaddim swings on Kaddim
Dagger 22 vs AC miss

Creeper east of Quinn throws a dagger at Quinn
Dagger 28 vs AC hits for 6hp

Flaming Skull shoots a firey ray at Candelos (the ray came from the mirror west of Sonya)
23 vs Ref hits for 13hp of fire damage

Candelos turn:
Candelos is still enraged and takes a swing at Quinn.
Holy Strike 32 vs AC hits for 17hp radiant damage


Sonya's turn, then Thia, Miri, and Kaddim



Current PC Status is:
Sonya 52/61hp 7/9 surges
Candelos 27/72hp 14/14 surges
Kaddim 53/73hp 11/11 surges
Quinn 34/73hp 9/11 surges
Miri 44/54hp 9/9 surges
Thia 50/60hp 7/7 surges

Sonya's Action...
Move Action - Move 2 East, Move 2 North
Standard Action - Strike at Creeper w Lion's Roar + 13 (-2 for cover) 2d12 +6 dam
Effect - Quinn uses one of his own surges and gains an addition 5 points back.
Minor Action - Use Shake It Off, to give Quinn a save vs. on going damage with a + 5 bonus to the roll.
Free Action - say "Should I take the time to break the mirror to my left?"

Done...

Teramotos wrote:Sonya's Action...
Move Action - Move 2 East, Move 2 North
Standard Action - Strike at Creeper w Lion's Roar + 13 (-2 for cover) 2d12 +6 dam
Effect - Quinn uses one of his own surges and gains an addition 5 points back.
Minor Action - Use Shake It Off, to give Quinn a save vs. on going damage with a + 5 bonus to the roll.
Free Action - say "Should I take the time to break the mirror to my left?"

Done...

Sonya moves around Quinn and uses Lion's Roar on the Creeper.
LR 20-2 vs AC hits for 26hp of damage (the creeper falls).

Quinn uses a healing surge and gets back 18hp (maybe an additional 5, we'll see)



Note:
Does Sonya have Tactical Presence or Inspiring Presence?

Lion's Roar states that warlords with Inspiring Presence provide a Char mod bonus to the healing surge. Sonya is listed as Tactical presence in the Character Builder under class.

Hum, nasty power to be able to enrage someone on-going without getting saves to end it.

Thia will HQ the creeper directly north of her and then twin strike it. She will then move north 3 and west 1.

...Sonya is definately Inspiring Presence...
If the Character Builder needs to be updated, how do I change the picture. I like the picture of the dwarf female with the open face helm and brown hair.
5 more hits for Quinn...

Oh... Forgot to mention, when Sonya kills the Creeper he exploses in a burst (1) of blinding light. Candelos, Kaddim, Quinn, and Sonya are blinded (save ends).

I've added 5hp to Quinn for Sonya being an Inspiring Warlord.

Quinn gets a new save from Sonya and rolls 4+5=9 failure.

Sonya is blinded by the exploding Creeper and at the end of her turn she rolls a 19 and is no longer blinded.



Thia's turn
Standard Twin Strike on the Creeper to the north.
TS #1 18-2 vs AC miss
TS #2 33-2 vs AC critical hit for 17+10+8HQ (the Creeper falls and explodes in a flash of bright light). I believe Kaddim is affected twice and would have to make two saves to regain his sight.

Miri's turn...

hmmm...don't think the same affects, even from two different monsters, stack. Might take this to the RL thread...

Miri's turn:

Standard action: Magic Missle the Hellsword directly No of Kaddim
Minor action: sustain Bigby's Icy Grasp
Move action: move Bigby's Icy Grasp 3 squares No + 1 square NE (2 squares NE if I can see that square)
done.

Miri's turn
Standard: Magic Missile Hellsword #2
MM 20 vs Ref hits for 15hp of force damage

Minor: sustain Bigby

Move: Move the hand 3N+1NE (can't move more east as it would be out of Miri sight)

Kaddim's turn...



Note:
Kaddim, Quinn, and Candelos are all blinded (save ends).

Dwarmaj wrote:
MM 20 vs Ref hits for 15hp of force damage...

...Note:
Kaddim, Quinn, and Candelos are all blinded (save ends).

Miri free action: "Yay! The Hellsword directly north of Kaddim has pretty low reflexes!" :-)

Oh shoot, its Kaddim's turn and he is in Cali. We need to do this for him.

Unless someone disagrees, I think he should sword burst since that is a burst. Then obviously save for the blind(s).

Krystoff wrote:Oh shoot, its Kaddim's turn and he is in Cali. We need to do this for him.

Unless someone disagrees, I think he should sword burst since that is a burst. Then obviously save for the blind(s).

That's right... he left for Cali today. I'd also have him shift 1 square W, so Quinn can charge it.

Kaddim shifts west and uses sword burst (which ignores concealment)
Swordburst 30 vs Ref hits for 13hp of force damage.

At the end of Kaddim's turn he rolls 14 ends the fist blindness, but rolls 4 vs the second blindness effect. Kaddim is still blinded.

Hellswords turn:
Hellsword #2 thanks Kaddim for getting out of the way and charges south.

No AoO from Kaddim since he's blinded.

When a Hellsword charges he can make an attack against all in his reach.
Greatsword vs Kaddim 28 vs AC hit for 14hp
Greatsword vs Candelos 23+2(CA from blind) vs AC hits for 13hp
Greatsword vs Quinn 26+2 (CA from blind) vs AC hits for 7hp
Greatsword vs Sonya 30-2 (cover) (critical) vs AC hits for 15hp

All hit also gain ongoing fire damage.

Hellsword #1 moves west, then charges Miri
Greatsword 23 vs AC miss


Current PC Status is:
Sonya 37/61hp 7/9 surges
Candelos 14/72hp 14/14 surges
Kaddim 39/73hp 11/11 surges
Quinn 40/73hp 8/11 surges
Miri 44/54hp 9/9 surges
Thia 50/60hp 7/7 surges

Quinn's turn...
Quinn is currently blinded and takes 5hp of ongoing fire damage. (Quinn has two instances of ongoing fire damage. The damage doesn't stack, but for now the durations do).

"Is there an enemy around me?" I will swing reaping strike if someone answeres yes otherwise I will take a second wind if someone answers no.

Sonya, Free Action "Quinn, there is a Hellsword directly in front of you." (Assumes Quinn is facing the Hellsword, otherwise, alter my words accordingly.)

Quinn uses Reaping Strike on an enemy he thinks is in front of him.
RS 21-5 vs AC miss; The Hellsword takes 5hp of damage.

Creepers turn:
Creeper #2 moves into flanking position on Sonya and swings
Dagger 12+2 vs AC miss

Flaming Skull apears in a mirror to the SW and shoots a firey ray at Candelos
Flame Ray 19+2-2 vs Ref hits for 12hp of fire damage

Candelos turn:
Candelos takes 5hp of ongoing fire damage and falls unconscious.

At the end of Candelos' turn he rolls for saves
Ongoing fire 13 success
Blindness 5 miss
Death Save 15

Sonya's turn...

Did Quinn not get any saving throws?

David wrote:Did Quinn not get any saving throws?

Sorry, I rolled his saves but forgot to post.
Quinn has three effects active
Ongoing Fire 1 rolled 7 failed
Ongoing Fire 2 rolled 20 success
Blindness 14 success

Quinn is still under the effect of one ongoing fire.