If I were Ken, I'd over-rule this unless you stated you were going to do this beforehand. Even if the rules say LOS isn't neccessary, you'd still have to have some reason to know to do this. You certainly aren't yelling this every time a party member leaves your sight. E.g., you didn't yell this when Miri teleported to an empty room... If Candelos' psychic link was still in effect, then I'd allow it. (Ken's decision, but that's my take.)Teramotos wrote:...if Kaddim can hear me, I'll giving him "Commander's Strike"
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The Pit
Kenji- Number of posts : 3459
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- Post n°51
Re: The Pit
Kenji- Number of posts : 3459
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- Post n°52
Re: The Pit
even if Thia can't see, I'd think she'd still shoot. Kaddim's 'Booming Blade' is thunder damage, which I'm assuming gives audible clues where he is (& is probably making noise other than that too), Thia just got through fighting these rats and is taking necrotic damage again, so it would be reasonable for her to know it's 'area effect 1' and target 2 squares that doesn't include Kaddim with rats in it. They'd be at -5 to hit, but I think she'd still safely take the shots...Krystoff wrote:If Thia can see she will try to shift and shoot 2 rats with twin strike.
Dwarmaj- Number of posts : 5285
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- Post n°53
Re: The Pit
Ross wrote:Minor Action: Pull out a sunrod.
Standard Action: Sword Burst
If the rat is eliminated to my Southeast (checked by attempting to shift into that square)
Move Action: I will shift into that square.
Kaddim uses swordburt on the two rats in range:
SB #1 26 vs Ref hits for 11hp, the rat is killed
SB #2 14 vs Ref miss
Kaddim can't shift SE since that rat wasn't killed. I'll post a new pic as soon as the server is up. Kaddim still has a move action left...
Dwarmaj- Number of posts : 5285
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- Post n°54
Re: The Pit
bradly wrote:Yeah, I saw that. That's why I cast it just now (I already used it against the rats before the Charnal Lord. I was thinking positively that I'd get all 6 this time & letting you know I plan on another 5 minute rest before trying to activate the trigger again.Dwarmaj wrote:Miri has all encounter powers refreshed... see post above (page 3 #11)
'Fire Shroud' is my best minion clearing spell in case more rats come again & I want to have that spell back. Plus, I want to give the rest of the party time to get in position, do what they want to do, before I try again.
I think there are 4 sides to this revolving floor trap right? Seeing it work 2x now (3x if you include the time she went through), does she think she sees a way to jam it in mid rotation?
Miri uses Fire Shroud (I delayed in posting to see if you'd use Shield to make the hits misses..., guess not this time) Miri was hit by three rats and took 15hp. At the start of her turn she takes an additional 12hp from aura damage.
Miri is currently at 20/50hp with 3/9 surges.
Miri uses Fire Shroud and has 6 targets in range.
FS #1 28 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #2 19 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #3 21 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #4 18 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #5 29 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #6 28 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
Miri killed all rats in range.
As far as jamming the trap, you don't have anything capable of stopping the pivoting walls. They're a foot think and move fast. All you can do is keep triggering it and hope the PCs emerge instead of rats.
Looks like the image server is still having problems. Hopefully things will be back to normal on Monday.
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Dwarmaj- Number of posts : 5285
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- Post n°55
Re: The Pit
Teramotos wrote:...if Kaddim can hear me, I'll giving him "Commander's Strike"
All powers require Line of Effect unless they specificly state that they don't.
Sonya is currently unable to give Kaddim a free attack from Commander's Strike
Kenji- Number of posts : 3459
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- Post n°56
Re: The Pit
Doh!! I forgot those recharged too! Damn... :-(Dwarmaj wrote:Miri uses Fire Shroud (I delayed in posting to see if you'd use Shield to make the hits misses..., guess not this time) Miri was hit by three rats and took 15hp.
Miri is currently at 20/50hp with 3/9 surges...
Whoo Hoo! Miri will rest 5 minutes, use 2 healing surges, then break off the other arm of the statue with her staff & try to trigger the trap again using 'Mage Hand'.Dwarmaj wrote:
Miri uses Fire Shroud and has 6 targets in range.
FS #1 28 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #2 19 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #3 21 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #4 18 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #5 29 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
FS #6 28 vs Fort hits, the rat is killed
Miri killed all rats in range.
Hopefully some PCs show up next time... If not, hopefully nothing worse than rat minions do & I at least remember my abilities! :-)
Dwarmaj- Number of posts : 5285
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- Post n°57
Re: The Pit
What are Quinn, Candelos, and Sonya doing after the trap triggered and Kaddim and Thia were dumped into another room?
Ross- Admin
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Campaign: 4e-Against the Giants
Character Name: Kazoo Noisemaker
Player Name: Ross
- Post n°59
Re: The Pit
Minor: Dimensional Warp and trade places with Thia
Standard: Sword Burst
Attack: Intelligence vs. Reflex (Frost Longsword +2: +10 attack, 1d6+8 damage)
Hit: 1d6 + Intelligence modifier (+5) force damage.
Standard: Sword Burst
Attack: Intelligence vs. Reflex (Frost Longsword +2: +10 attack, 1d6+8 damage)
Hit: 1d6 + Intelligence modifier (+5) force damage.
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CHARACTERS:
Silk - Human/Hexblade [4e-Dark Nights Rising Campaign]
Kazoo - Halfling(Kender)/Hybrid(Rogue/Druid) [4e-Against the Giants]
Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Shandral Aurlong - Human/Sorcerer [5e-Horde of the Dragon Queen Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Battlefield Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn
Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
Kenji- Number of posts : 3459
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- Post n°60
Re: The Pit
Miri just had an idea...
If she has lipstick, or chalk or something, she'll use that, otherwise she'll create it with 'Prestidigatation'. From the PHB:
Produce out of nothingness a small item or image
that exists until the end of your next turn.
She'll then write on the part of the floor that rotates, "Triggered the trap once. No one here. Rats showed up. Will try again every 5 mins or so. Any other suggestions? -Miri" She'll do this while waiting 5 minutes to get her encounter powers back. She'll also mark on the floor that doesn't rotate to watch it in case you rule that what she writes also goes away at the end of the next turn. If so, she'll try to write the same thing scraping the floor with her flint & steel.
If she has lipstick, or chalk or something, she'll use that, otherwise she'll create it with 'Prestidigatation'. From the PHB:
Produce out of nothingness a small item or image
that exists until the end of your next turn.
She'll then write on the part of the floor that rotates, "Triggered the trap once. No one here. Rats showed up. Will try again every 5 mins or so. Any other suggestions? -Miri" She'll do this while waiting 5 minutes to get her encounter powers back. She'll also mark on the floor that doesn't rotate to watch it in case you rule that what she writes also goes away at the end of the next turn. If so, she'll try to write the same thing scraping the floor with her flint & steel.
Kenji- Number of posts : 3459
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- Post n°61
Re: The Pit
I don't think it's a new turn, but still part of your last turn and Ken wants to know if you're going to use or waste your move action.Ross wrote:Minor: Dimensional Warp and trade places with Thia
Standard: Sword Burst
Attack: Intelligence vs. Reflex (Frost Longsword +2: +10 attack, 1d6+8 damage)
Hit: 1d6 + Intelligence modifier (+5) force damage.
Ross- Admin
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Campaign: 4e-Against the Giants
Character Name: Kazoo Noisemaker
Player Name: Ross
- Post n°62
Re: The Pit
Ah, thanks. Was just browsing real quick when I answered.
I'll shift one square. Done.
I'll shift one square. Done.
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CHARACTERS:
Silk - Human/Hexblade [4e-Dark Nights Rising Campaign]
Kazoo - Halfling(Kender)/Hybrid(Rogue/Druid) [4e-Against the Giants]
Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Shandral Aurlong - Human/Sorcerer [5e-Horde of the Dragon Queen Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Battlefield Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn
Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
Dwarmaj- Number of posts : 5285
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Re: The Pit
Hmm, playing out this particular trap will be time consuming on the messageboard.
We can either play it out in a MapTools/Ventrilo session or I can resolve the PCs actions and post what happened.
Let me know what you guys prefer.
We can either play it out in a MapTools/Ventrilo session or I can resolve the PCs actions and post what happened.
Let me know what you guys prefer.
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Character sheet
Campaign: 4e-Against the Giants
Character Name: Kazoo Noisemaker
Player Name: Ross
- Post n°64
Re: The Pit
I vote for resolve and post
_________________
CHARACTERS:
Silk - Human/Hexblade [4e-Dark Nights Rising Campaign]
Kazoo - Halfling(Kender)/Hybrid(Rogue/Druid) [4e-Against the Giants]
Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Shandral Aurlong - Human/Sorcerer [5e-Horde of the Dragon Queen Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Battlefield Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn
Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
Krystoff- Number of posts : 1677
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- Post n°65
Re: The Pit
Same here; resolve and post.
Teramotos- Number of posts : 4854
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- Post n°66
Vote
...resolve and post.
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Whey Baker (Human Fighter) - SG1
Archemedies - (Githyanki Artificer) - Slave Ship
Alysa Redfield (Human Archer Warlord) - Dark Nights Rising
Kenji- Number of posts : 3459
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- Post n°67
Re: The Pit
We have a quorum. Let us know how we beat the trap. Good idea, thanks.
Dwarmaj- Number of posts : 5285
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Re: The Pit
Miri clears out the rats that appeared after she triggered the trap and decides to take a 5 minute rest.
Meanwhile...
Kaddim and Thia are battleing rats of their own. Kaddim finds that Swordburst if effective at clearing out the rats, but the aura from the rats is taking its toll on Thia.
Thia can tall that more rats are on the way and seem to be coming from cracks in the east and west walls. Before more rats can come in, Thia locats the pressure plates in
the room and instructs Kaddim on how to activate them.
Kaddim and Thia are shoved into a new room as the cieling and walls pivot again.
Miri's rest has been interrupted as the trap pivots and more rats appear. Miri is lucky this time and wins initiative. Before the rats can swarm her she uses Flaming Sphere and kills one rat, then four more die due to the spheres flames. The remaining rat charges and misses and is killed by the sphere on Miri's next turn.
Kaddim and Thia have a more difficult time in the second room due to bad luck on their part and and the quickness of the rats. They manage to clear the room, but Thia took quite a bit of damage (7/60 remaining with no surges left...)
After clearing the room, Thia finds the pressure plates and the trap is triggered once more.
To Miri's surprise Kaddim and Thia appear instead of Rats.
Miri keeps her flaming sphere active and takes cover with Thia near the stairs. Kaddim activates the trap (Thia shows him how to activate the trap without being in the area...) as often as he can in the hopes that the rest of the party joins them...
After several minutes and waves of rats that die to Kaddim and the flaming sphere, the party is reunited. Thia makes sure to mark the trap area...
The party can now take an extended rest and LEVEL UP.
Let me know what changes you want to make to your PC.
Meanwhile...
Kaddim and Thia are battleing rats of their own. Kaddim finds that Swordburst if effective at clearing out the rats, but the aura from the rats is taking its toll on Thia.
Thia can tall that more rats are on the way and seem to be coming from cracks in the east and west walls. Before more rats can come in, Thia locats the pressure plates in
the room and instructs Kaddim on how to activate them.
Kaddim and Thia are shoved into a new room as the cieling and walls pivot again.
Miri's rest has been interrupted as the trap pivots and more rats appear. Miri is lucky this time and wins initiative. Before the rats can swarm her she uses Flaming Sphere and kills one rat, then four more die due to the spheres flames. The remaining rat charges and misses and is killed by the sphere on Miri's next turn.
Kaddim and Thia have a more difficult time in the second room due to bad luck on their part and and the quickness of the rats. They manage to clear the room, but Thia took quite a bit of damage (7/60 remaining with no surges left...)
After clearing the room, Thia finds the pressure plates and the trap is triggered once more.
To Miri's surprise Kaddim and Thia appear instead of Rats.
Miri keeps her flaming sphere active and takes cover with Thia near the stairs. Kaddim activates the trap (Thia shows him how to activate the trap without being in the area...) as often as he can in the hopes that the rest of the party joins them...
After several minutes and waves of rats that die to Kaddim and the flaming sphere, the party is reunited. Thia makes sure to mark the trap area...
The party can now take an extended rest and LEVEL UP.
Let me know what changes you want to make to your PC.
Kenji- Number of posts : 3459
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- Post n°69
Re: The Pit
Yay! That was a hairy day! And,...
Miri (When the 2 first appear): "There you are! Where's everyone else? ...Were you two looking for some private time?" ;-)
Miri (when everyone else is together): "I say we rest here on the far side of the trap from the Sahaguins. That way we can trap them if they try to attack us while we're recovering. Also, what items beside Kaddim's goggles does everyone want? Any objections to me dusting all the treasure & gold we've collected so far?"
Note: What treasure have we found so far & who's been carrying it?
Whoo Hoo!Dwarmaj wrote:The party can now take an extended rest and LEVEL UP.
Let me know what changes you want to make to your PC.
Miri (When the 2 first appear): "There you are! Where's everyone else? ...Were you two looking for some private time?" ;-)
Miri (when everyone else is together): "I say we rest here on the far side of the trap from the Sahaguins. That way we can trap them if they try to attack us while we're recovering. Also, what items beside Kaddim's goggles does everyone want? Any objections to me dusting all the treasure & gold we've collected so far?"
Note: What treasure have we found so far & who's been carrying it?
Krystoff- Number of posts : 1677
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- Post n°70
Re: The Pit
Whew, 7 of 60 and 0 surges left, ouch! Knew it was going to be rough going there.
Teramotos- Number of posts : 4854
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- Post n°71
Treasure
...before we can make a decision on dusting everything, we have to know what we have...
_________________
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Sonya Morecut (Human Warlord) - SG1
Whey Baker (Human Fighter) - SG1
Archemedies - (Githyanki Artificer) - Slave Ship
Alysa Redfield (Human Archer Warlord) - Dark Nights Rising
Dwarmaj- Number of posts : 5285
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Re: The Pit
Teramotos wrote:...before we can make a decision on dusting everything, we have to know what we have...
Hmm, anyone keeping track of treasure? Maybe it fell into the pit with the Charnal Lords body or it was lost while swimming with the sahuagins.
I'll post what the PCs have later if noone knows.
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