Buffy-verse PC (only) Thread

The reason I asked about the feat is that it has the exact same wording as the belt...

The feat is different because it's giving out damage to NPCs which are built to go down anyway. Kind of a strawman. The belt is nixed at paragon level because it makes a PC too invulnerable. Way too few 'out of the box' monsters consistently do above 20 hits/attack. By comparison, the next waist item to grant resistence is three levels higher & says:

Belt of Raging Endurance
Property: You gain 1 healing surge
Power: (Encounter) immediate interrupt. Trigger: An enemy hits you and causes damage. Effect: You gain resist 25 against that attack, but also take 15 damage at the end of your next turn.

20 resist all, all the time is many orders of magnitude out of line with this. Every superhero has to have his Krypton.

Is the heroic version OK?

How about the paragon version in epic?

Also, it's not Resist 20 all the time. It only kicks in when Angelus is at 0 or below HP. Usually doesn't kick in until the 2nd or 3rd encounter.

I agree that the paragon version is powerful but so are a lot of other combos.

The item by itself isn't powerful, it's the combination of
Racal ability: Unnatural Vitality (become dazed instead of conscious until 1 failed death save)
Superior Will: to get rid of dazed
2 Feat/2 Items to get +7 to death saves
Paragon Path: to remain conscious indefinitely


Note: The build I used for Angelus isn't the most powerful of it's type.
Revanant (Shadar-kai) with an Epic Destiny of Raven Consort is. Even without the belt you have to do their full HP in damage in a single round to kill them. When below zero they can get surgeless healing almost every round if needed.

Hmmm...comparing the Belt of Ragine Endurance as a stand alone item visa vie Angelus' situation; is that a valid comparison. How many factors did Ken's PC have to align in order to cause the item to work as it does? Just throwing that out there...

Now that I carefully read Dwarmaj's post above, I'm stating the exact same thing. It's took five power/ item/ feat selections to combine to get to where we are...not just a single item.

Guys, the thing is this: I've built out many of the paragon as well as epic encounters already. I have nothing planned that can challenge that item, so the choices are: Openly say Angelus is on Godmode for the rest of the campaign, jack up the monsters & encounters to match Angelus which would likely overpower the rest of the Slayers, assasinate Angelus in a way that removes him from the campaign, or else nerf that item. What does everybody think is the simplest and fairest? Any other solutions?

And yes, thank you for not picking the most broken build you could find, but if the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc most broken also doesn't fit the campaign, then it doesn't fit the campaign either. If this isn't obvious, I'm at a loss as to why not... Remember, the same monsters that are fighting Angelus are also fighting Aura. Remember too the most fun encounters have some excitement in them. You help me write this for everyone if none of the PCs are outliers. This is more difficult otherwise.

Thanks, just needed an a reason other than "it's broken".

Though I don't think you'll be able to make a monster that Aura can stand up against that will still be a challenge to Angelus or a couple of other members of the party... (no offence to Aura...)

But in 4E, that's suppose to be ok. That's what defenders, controllers, and strikers are for. She only has to be able to take one or two hits and another member of the party will be there to help.

Taking our PCs out of it, it'll be hard to make monsters that won't kill a pure leader or controller that will still be a challange for a defender or striker.

Another alternative is to nerf it, like only allowing it to give resistance to all, with the exception of specific specific attacks, like Necrotic damage.

Ross wrote:Another alternative is to nerf it, like only allowing it to give resistance to all, with the exception of specific specific attacks, like Necrotic damage.

That was his initial ruling...

I don't think having specific exceptions will work since I can always pick up resistances to those (I already have necrotic and cold resistance, only 5 now but could get higher). Also there are a couple of other items I can take that provide similar benefits...

The root of the problem as Brad pointed out is that he already has the monsters/encounters done.

There are some monsters that can slay Angelus with a single hit or take him totally out of the battle for multiple rounds. But they may not fit into his "story".


I guess my point is that if he's built his monsters to challenge or not kill Aura and not the entire party then it may already be too late.

He could always just say certain attacks by certain powers aren't effected by resistance, kind I like the way our stun negation doesn't work.

Ross wrote:He could always just say certain attacks by certain powers aren't effected by resistance, kind I like the way our stun negation doesn't work.

Yes, but there are:
encounter interrupts that can avoid damage.
a feat that says you can reduce the damage take by an attack (not resistance so it'll work)
ways to burn a surge as a free action (I normally only use 3 surges per adventrue, if the belt is nerfed I'll probably have to use a few more).
a feat to become incorporeal, 1/2 damage.

The belt does make things easier, but there's lots of other stuff out there...

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Razalon, level 17
Elf, Ranger, Lyrandar Wind-Rider
Build: Archer Ranger
Fighting Style Option: Archer Fighting Style
Ranger Option: Prime Shot
Silent Hunter (Silent Hunter Benefit)
Theme: Noble Adept

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 21, CON 21, DEX 26, INT 21, WIS 26, CHA 21

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 20, CON 20, DEX 20, INT 20, WIS 20, CHA 20


AC: 32 Fort: 28 Ref: 30 Will: 29
HP: 113 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 28

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +17, Endurance +17, Nature +23, Perception +24, Stealth +21, Thievery +20

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +15, Arcana +13, Bluff +13, Diplomacy +13, Dungeoneering +16, Heal +16, History +13, Insight +16, Intimidate +13, Religion +13, Streetwise +13

POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Noble Adept Feature: Adept's Insight
Elf Racial Power: Elven Accuracy
Hunter's Quarry Power: Hunter's Quarry
Ranger Attack 1: Nimble Strike
Ranger Attack 1: Twin Strike
Ranger Utility 2: Invigorating Stride
Wizard Utility 2: Feather Fall
Ranger Attack 3: Disruptive Strike
Ranger Attack 5: Spitting-Cobra Stance
Ranger Utility 6: Weave Through the Fray
Rogue Attack 7: Snap Shot
Ranger Attack 9: Attacks on the Run
Ranger Utility 10: Defensive Volley
Lyrandar Wind-Rider Attack 11: Wind Burst
Lyrandar Wind-Rider Utility 12: Zephyr Wings
Ranger Attack 15: Confounding Arrows
Ranger Utility 16: Word of Warning
Ranger Attack 17: Pounding Barrage

FEATS
Defensive Mobility
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency (Greatbow)
Level 2: Wintertouched
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Bow)
Level 6: Bow Expertise
Level 8: Mark of Storm
Level 10: Sneak of Shadows
Level 11: Lasting Frost
Level 12: Treetop Sniper
Level 14: Novice Power
Level 16: Called Shot

ITEMS
Longsword
Deathcut Hide Armor +3 x1
Thunderbolt Greatbow +3 x1
Bracers of Archery (paragon tier) x1
Boots of Eagerness x1
Gloves of Ice (paragon tier) x1
Casque of Tactics (paragon tier) x1
Cloak of Distortion +3 x1
Ring of Giants x1
Diamond Cincture (heroic tier) x1
Frozen Whetstone (heroic tier) x10
Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold (paragon tier)
====== End ======

Note:
I've assigned items of your level, but Buffyverse is a "low" magic world and Brad may say that you start with none of the items and you'll need to find them on your first adventure.

Items that your character must have to function are:
great bow
armor
cloak

Nice to have items are
Bracers
Gloves
Whetstones

The rest is just gravy...

Send me an email (KMills@q.com) and I'll send you info on the character builder

I think Brad allows you to start with 3 item of you level.
a 16th, 17th and 18th. and 16th item in GP.
He can have a few minor items made once he meets the right wizard.

Mick wrote:I think Brad allows you to start with 3 item of you level.
a 16th, 17th and 18th. and 16th item in GP.
He can have a few minor items made once he meets the right wizard.

Having an 18th, 17th, 16th, and 16th in gold is the norm.

I remember Aura started with nothing and got a bow and a couple of other items after defeating a vampire.

When I created the character I used the normal rules to figure out how much gold and bought items.

If it's three items only then:
Thunderbolt Greatbow +4 (18th level)
Deathcut Hide Armor +3 (15th level)
Bracers of Archery (15th)

There's really nothing good for his PC that's 16th or 17th so he's basically loosing 60k in value by taking two 15ths.

Archiving Angelus...

Angelus

17th version:

Paragon Wish List
Belt of Sonnlinor Righteousness, paragon (lvl 16 item)
Blurred Strike Ki Focus (upgraded from +3 to +4) (lvl 20)
Bloodthread Mindweave Armor +4 (lvl 20)


Projected Epic Destiny
Raven Knight


Zodiac Scar:
Angelus has a Blood Red Gemini (about 2" in height) on his left bicep.


Angelus has a Black symbol of the Raven Queen over his heart (about 4" in height)

Archiving Angelus...

Is he leaving the campaign? Replacing with a new character?
How does that work into the storyline with only 12 PC slots and all filled by now.
Brad, is switching out a PC an option for everyone?

I'd like to switch PCs as I really think the party could use a defender and we've been playing these chars for the last year and a half.

Angelus plays like a striker/defender, but has no way to deter monsters from going after the leaders. A defender with a mark and other punishment features can do that. It would be much more efficient for the leaders to heal someone with more HP/surges than it is for them to heal themselves.

Ashe does that on occasion, but can't make it very often.

I've sent Brad a history and summary of the new PC. He hasn't said no, but hasn't said ok either...

Since I was planing on retiring Angelus, I was hoping to have the new PC have equivalent gp value in items. (at least that's what I currently have equipped on them). At a minimum though any new PC needs appropriate magic weapon/armor/neck items otherwise they'll have a hard time hitting anything or evading enemy attacks.

We coul always say Angelus collapsed after that last encounter an died. Then his mark went to your new character.

...or better yet, Angelus LOST HIS SOUL and became evil.
...oh wait, his name was "Angelus" wasn't it, not Angel.
He can still join the bad guys; that would be an interesting twist.
Maybe one of our Epic quests will be to find an old witch and try to infuse Angelus' soul back into his body after which he will have an aversion to fighting and become a priest. Alternately, one of our Epic quests could be to dust Angelus...(where's Spike when you need him?).

Don't give Brad too many ideas...

I don't think we want to fight Angelus, especially in Epic.

bradly wrote:
First encounter then will be in Egypt...

Brad, did you read the history for Aya that I sent you (about a month ago)? It's also posted with the PC on the Buffyverse PC thread.

Does it need to be revised? Her inital race was Water Genasi before she became Warforged. Not sure if I need to change it to another type of Genasi, something more desert like.

Yes, I did & was plannng on using it. Thanks! Nope, don't need to change a thing, Epgypt is perfect!

Teramotos wrote:...oh wait, his name was "Angelus" wasn't it, not Angel.

Fyi, On the first adventure before we skipped ahead to 6th, Angelus wasn't undead yet and we had a planned death between Ken & me instead of saying it's background info. Ken almost got everyone else killed too, which wasn't supposed to happen... :-/ ...Anyway, his name was Angel when he was alive and Angelus when he came back as a Revenent (opposite the show). :-)


You guys don't know a lot about my PC, "Lone Vengeance", yet, but she is always wearing her costume; dark red leather boots, flowing red silk bikini/dress, red leather gloves (all resembling Electra from DareDevil comics), and a red leather mask covering the full head and neck with small leather horns. She often hides, vanishes, teleports, and/or summons wisps of smoke that forms into a short sword in her hand. She never shows her face, keeps her hair tucked in her mask, and keeps all info about her past very close to the chest. (Her outfit does show quite a bit of skin though, just not her face...)

female, level 18
Human, Assassin, Shadowblade
Build: Night Stalker Assassin
Guild Training: Night Stalker

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 21, Con 21, Dex 27, Int 21, Wis 21, Cha 25.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 20, Dex 20, Int 20, Wis 20, Cha 20.


AC: 34 Fort: 31 Reflex: 32 Will: 32
HP: 99 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 24

TRAINED SKILLS
Perception +19, Stealth +29, Insight +19, Acrobatics +22, Thievery +22, Streetwise +21

Aarahgast Rasthinson, level 28
Minataour, Barbarian
Build: Rageblood Barbarian
Feral Might: Rageblood Vigor
Diety: Dol Dorn
Theme: Windlord
Background: Accursed Lineage
Paragon path: Bear Warrior
Epic Destiny: Indomitable Champion


STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 20, Dex 20, Int 20, Wis 20, Cha 20.


FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 32, Con 28, Dex 26, Int 22, Wis 22, Cha 22.


AC: 45 FORT: 47 REF: 46 WILL: 43
HP: 240 Surges: 18 Surge Value: 60


TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +35, Endurance +28, Intimidate +25, Perception +33


UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +22, Arcana +20, Bluff +20, Diplomacy +20, Dungoneering +20, Heal +20, History +20, Insight +20, Nature +22, Religion +20, Stealth +22, Streetwise +20, Thievery +22.


FEATS
Level 1: Toughness
Level 2: Axe Expertise
Level 4: Weapon Focus (Axe)
Level 6: Power Attack
Level 8: Two-Handed Weapon Expertise
Level 10: Unarmored Agility
Level 11: Charging Rampage
Level 12: Weapon Proficiency (Execution axe)
Level 14: Powerful Charge
Level 16: Improved Defenses
Level 18: Battle Awareness [Multiclass Fighter]
Level 20: Superior Reflexes
Level 21: Axe Mastery
Level 22: Overpowering Charge
Level 24: Primal Resurgence
Level 26: Master at Arms
Level 28: Indomitable Will

POWERS
Level 1 Barbarian at-will: Howling Strike
Level 1 Barbarian at-will: Pressing Strike
Level 1 Barbarian encounter: Desperate Fury [Replaced]
Level 1 Barbarian daily: Thunder Hooves Rage [Replaced]
Level 2 Barbarian utility: Combat Sprint
Level 3 Barbarian encounter: Brutal Slam [Replaced]
Level 5 Barbarian daily: Rage of the Crimson Hurricane [Replaced]
Level 6 Barbarian utility: Laugh it Off
Level 7 Barbarian encounter: Fearsome Smash
Level 9 Barbarian daily: Oak Hammer Rage
Level 10 Barbarian utility: Enraged Surge
Level 13 Barbarian encounter: Iron Breaker's Shout
Level 15 Barbarian daily: Thunderfury Rage
Level 16 Barbarian utility: Spur the Cycle
Level 17 Barbarian encounter: Devastating Blow [Replaced]
Level 19 Barbarian daily: Desert Wind Rage
Level 22 Barbarian utility: Unexpected Clarity
Level 23 Barbarian encounter: Crater Fall
Level 25 Barbarian daily: Stone Tempest Rage
Level 27 Barbarian encounter: Butcher's Feast
MAGIC ITEMS
Brilliant Energy Execution axe +6, Mantle of the Seventh Wind Giantweave Armor +6, Badge of the Berserker +6, Iron Armbands of Power (epic tier), Ring of X-Ray Vision, Golden Ring of Teros, Ring of Free Time, Rampaging Slayer's Gloves (epic tier), Sandals of Avandra, Circlet of Arkhosia, Belt of Titan Strength, Siberys Shard of Radiance (epic tier), Breakchain Tatoo (epic tier), Solitaire (Violet), Book of Five Truths (The Fourth Truth), All-Seeing Eye, Bag of Holding, Dice of Auspicious Fortune, Harper Pin, Stone of Earth, Stone of Light, Stone of Storms, Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 23), Quickening Waters, Silver Hands of Power (level 19), Torog's Lamentation of the Shackled (level 23), Five Stars Five Strikes,

ITEMS
1 electric hand grenade


Character notes:
Tatoos: Sagittarius on the right Bicep, Breakchain Tatoo (epic tier) on the left bicep.

Still working on the character Bio.

Updated 12 January 2016

Argot, level 28
Dwarf, Fighter, Slayer
Slayer Weapon Specialization: Brutal Axe
Background: Athlete [Occupation]
Theme: Ironwrought
Paragon Path: Mythic Slayer
Epic Destiny: Indomitable Champion

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 32, Con 26, Dex 28, Int 22, Wis 22, Cha 22.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 20, Con 20, Dex 20, Int 20, Wis 20, Cha 20.


AC: 44 Fort: 47 Reflex: 42 Will: 39
HP: 223 Surges: 19 Surge Value: 63

TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +25, Endurance +29, Athletics +35

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +22, Arcana +20, Bluff +20, Diplomacy +20, Dungeoneering +22, Heal +20, History +20, Insight +20,, Nature +20, Perception +25, Religion +20, Stealth +22, Streetwise +20, Thievery +22

FEATS
Level 1: Dwarven Weapon Training
Level 2: Savage Axe
Level 4: Axe Expertise
Level 6: Mater at Arms
Level 8: Quick Steps
Level 10: Knock Back
Level 11: Two-Handed Weapon Expertise
Level 12: Improved Defenses
Level 14: Paragon Defenses
Level 16: Superior Fortitude
Level 18: Dwarven Mobility
Level 20: Enduring Whallop
Level 21: Axe Mastery
Level 22: Weapon Focus (Axe)
Level 24: Weapon Exertise (Axe)
Level 26: Robust Defenses
Level 28: Indomitable Will

POWERS
Level 1 Slayer Fighter Stance: Berserker's Charge
Level 1 Slayer Fighter Stance: Duelist's Assault
Level 2 Slayer Utility: Single Out
Level 6 Slayer Utility: Ignore Weakness
Level 7 Slayer Stance: Poised Assault
Level 10 Slayer Utility: Clearheaded
Level 16 Relentless Advance: Mountainborn Tenacity
Level 17 Slayer Stance: Mobile Blade
Level 22 Slayer's Defiance: Slayer's Defiance


ITEMS
Dazzling Execution Axe +5, Cloak of Distortion +5, Iron Armbands of Power (epic tier), Airstriders, Lenses of the Luminary, Feytouched Rox Hide Armor +6, Gauntlets of Blood (epic tier), Star Opal Ring, Ring of Unwelcome Gifting, Belt of Titan Strength, Bag of Holding, Dice of Auspicious Fortune, Harper Pin, Solitaire (Aquamarine), Solitaire (Violet), Stone of Earth, Stone of Light, Siberys Shar of Radiance (epic tier), Breakchain Tatoo (epic tier)