PC level up...

Once the Charnel Lord is defeated and the party takes an extended rest, each PC will advance to 8th level.

Please post what updates you'd like to make to your characters.

From 7th to 8th you get:
Two ability score increases
One feat
Optional replacement of one power/feat

Thia will increase Dex and Wis to 20
Thia will take Lethal Hunter (HQ turns from D6 - D8)
Thia will replace Toughness feat with Distant Advantage feat. Distant Advantage allows me to gain flanking bonus when 2 of my allies are flanking an opponent.

I was probably playing her wrong but I never used the multiclass Rogue stuff. Not sure if there was someplace that you were going with it but I never used light blades in combat with her since she does so much more damage with the bow.

EDIT
OK, I remember thinking about this before and it dawned on me then that you had taken rogue to get the Thievery skill. I changed the feat that I am retraining to toughness. The 5 HP hurts but my AC grew a bit and hopefully you won't take away my ability to shift any more.

Krystoff wrote:Thia will increase Dex and Wis to 20
Thia will take Lethal Hunter (HQ turns from D6 - D8)
Thia will replace Toughness feat with Distant Advantage feat. Distant Advantage allows me to gain flanking bonus when 2 of my allies are flanking an opponent.

I was probably playing her wrong but I never used the multiclass Rogue stuff. Not sure if there was someplace that you were going with it but I never used light blades in combat with her since she does so much more damage with the bow.

EDIT
OK, I remember thinking about this before and it dawned on me then that you had taken rogue to get the Thievery skill. I changed the feat that I am retraining to toughness. The 5 HP hurts but my AC grew a bit and hopefully you won't take away my ability to shift any more.

Yea, I was just about to post that removing the Multi-class feat would reduce your Thievery skill and you're the only one that has that trained.

Note: Thia's "build" was based off of Battlefield Archer

When I was over with Ross checking out the Feats I noted very similar things to what Duskblade did in his feats section. It looks like this build really starts to shine around 11th level when I could get the Battlefield Archer paragon class.

I am trying to remember what Darkfire Targeting did as I thought it said you needed an implement. I've asked Ross to send me the feat description. All the other dark blues of his I have.

...increase Str and Cha

Select Feat - Saving Inspiration

Untrain - Warlord Strike and replace with Inspiring War Cry

Your not a Drow, so you can't have Darkfire Targeting

Darkfire Targeting
Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: Drow ranger or drow rogue
Benefit: Whenever you deal Sneak Attack or Hunter’s Quarry damage to the target of your darkfire power, the attack deals extra damage equal to your Wisdom modifier.
First published in Martial Power.

Miri will add the feat 'arcane reserves' at 8th and increase Int & Cha +1. (I know, she should add +1 Con, but I just can't play a female character with a 12 Cha. Next ability increase adds to all abilities and she'll have Cha14, which is minimally acceptable...)

bradly wrote:I know, she should add +1 Con, but I just can't play a female character with a 12 Cha.

12 isn't that bad... She's still above average, just not as hot as Sonya

Dwarmaj wrote:...just not as hot as Sonya

...and therein lies the problem! That's what chicks are most competitive over. :-)

I have level up info for Miri, Sonya, and Thia.

I still need info for Candelos, Quinn, and Kaddim.

Default adds for those chars are:
Quinn
+1 Str/Wis
Feat Novis Power (swapping Sudden Surge for Strengthen the Faithful)

Kaddim
+1 Int/Con
Feat Versatile Resistance

Candelos
+1 Str/Con
Feat Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)

Let me know if you want something different...

Will let you know later today.

Kaddim's level up info:

8th Level Feat: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Retraining: Remove 'Toughness', Replace with 'White Lotus Hindrance'

Ross wrote:Kaddim's level up info:

8th Level Feat: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Retraining: Remove 'Toughness', Replace with 'White Lotus Hindrance'

Just a thought, you may want to look at Focused Expertise instead of Weapon Expertise.

Weapon Expertise only works with weapon attacks.
Implement Expertise only works with implement powers.

Focused Expertise works with both, but you are tied to a specific type of weapon (ie longsword), instead of a group of weapons you could use.

White Lotus Hindrance looks interesting.

Ah, okay. I'll take Focused Expertise (longsword) instead. Thanks for the catch.

Candelos
+1 Str/Con
Feat Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
replace Two-Weapon Defense with Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)

Again, anyone want any items made during our rest? So far only Kaddim has spoken up, except for Miri who would like an item, but can't craft it until we divy up the treasure we found so far since she is lacking the necessary funds.

And from now on, Miri will volunteer to hold any treasure we find, with the understanding that every extended rest, every item & all gold will be dusted & then apportioned out to the party...

I don't think we should dust everything during an X-rest. You never know when a particular item might be needed. How about we just dust enough items to create requested items, or would that be too confusing?

My notes show that the party has found the following:

Lizardman room:
Amulet of Mental Resolve +2

Ferrence/Vren:
Vren's Armor +3 Dwarven chainmail
Ferrence's Bastard +2 Acidic (silver)
Nathan's Horn of Summons

6 moonstones (100gp each)
1 black pearl (500gp)
1,000gp

Note:

After the extended rest Quinn still isn't feeling 100%, but is about the same as the day before.

Candelos is feeling a bit worse. Very irritable and very little patience...

Anyone have Heal skill trained? I have a 4 in it, and can attempt to assist, or just try to treat them. Might behoove us to take another extended rest to see if we can get them feeling better.
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TREAT DISEASE
Make a Heal check to treat a character suffering from a disease. Chapter 3 of the Dungeon Master’s Guide has more information about disease.
Treat Disease: Part of the diseased character’s extended rest. You must attend the character periodically throughout the extended rest, and you make your Heal check when the rest ends.
Replaces Endurance: Your Heal check result determines the disease’s effects if the result is higher than the diseased character’s Endurance check result.

Sorry, I only have a 2 in Healing. Yeah, Quinn likely has a sickness of some sort.

The amulet is pretty good and can be used by anyone that doesn't already have a neck slot item, who can use it?

Will the armor improve anyone's AC? If so I'd say they can use it. Sonya can't use it.

I don't think anyone uses a Bastard Sword, I think we can dust that. The horn is only of marginal value but due to it's special quality I think we should carry it until we're out of the dungeon. The rest we should just split up...

Sonya suggests that we give Miri and Amulet of Mental Resolve + 2 and then Miri gives her Amulet of Protection + 2 to either Kaddim or Thia.

Dwarmaj wrote:My notes show that the party has found the following:

Lizardman room:
Amulet of Mental Resolve +2

Ferrence/Vren:
Vren's Armor +3 Dwarven chainmail
Ferrence's Bastard +2 Acidic (silver)
Nathan's Horn of Summons

6 moonstones (100gp each)
1 black pearl (500gp)
1,000gp

The Amulet of Mental Resolve +2 we can use, so someone should be wearing this. level 7 2,600gp.

Dwarven chain armor +3, no one can use this (I think), so I say dust it. level 12 item worth 13,000gp.

Acidic Bastard Sword +2 no one can use, so I say dust it. level 9 item worth 4,200gp.

Horn of Summons:This steel battle horn alerts even those allies you cannot see.
Wondrous Item 2,600 gp
Power (Encounter): Standard Action. When you sound
the horn, all creatures within 1 mile hear its call. Allies
within that range are awakened if they are sleeping, and
instantly know your current location, hit point total, and any effects currently affecting you.


Might be useful to wake everyone up instantly. I think our lightest sleeper should hold this. Either that or Quinn, since he seems most likely to get into trouble & need to call the rest of us quickly.

Gold value of jewelry + gold = 2,100gp.

2,600gp + 13,000gp + 4,200gp + (2,100/5= 1,050gp) = 20,850gp worth of residuum, if I have Ken's conversion correct. That would give us 3,475 each in residuum to craft items. Sound good to everyone?

2 water rooms already, any water walking items anyone wants me to craft for them? We might as well be as well equipped as possible.

Ferrence's sword is silver. I think the metal would convert 1:1 instead of 1:5 like a magic item would.

You can add 500gp to the total of residuum.

...I say we dust the sword last, a silver sword might be needed later. If this were a Stuart DM'ing adventure, I know that I would keep every single item found because most items found (that are not from a wish list) prove to be useful (and sometimes key) in later encounters.

Again, dust the sword only if we really need to in order to make an item.

bradly wrote:Miri will add the feat 'arcane reserves' at 8th and increase Int & Cha +1. (I know, she should add +1 Con, but I just can't play a female character with a 12 Cha. Next ability increase adds to all abilities and she'll have Cha14, which is minimally acceptable...)

Ken, 2 things: Since we haven't rested yet, I'd also like to retrain 'Wall of Fog' for 'Float', since we seem to run into so much water & difficult terrain. Also, when I was updating my character in character builder, it showed I had an empty slot in my spellbook. I'd like to fill that with 'Wizard's Escape'.

As far as items, if we don't dust the sword either, we can have 20,850gp - 4,200gp = 16,650gp worth of residuum, or 2,775gp worth each. (The extra 500gp doesn't subtract, since it wasn't added in.) Unless someone says otherwise, (speak up...) let's assume Miri dusts these items, gives everyone their share of residuum, and out of that crafts 'Goggles of Aura Sight' for Kaddim and 'Boots of the Fencing Master' for Miri. I guess no 3rd item for this extended rest unless someone else pipes up. Miri will wear the 'Amulet of Mental Resolve +2', give her 'Amulet of Protection +2' to Thia, Quinn will keep the 'Horn of Summons', and Sonya will keep the silver bastard sword 'Acidic +2'.

Note, I don't see how we'd ever NEED silver, all that would do is suppress regeneration, which likely is only 5.

I hate to waste an opportunity for us to get a magic item. I already have this item, but why don't you make a set of Iron Armbands of Power (lvl 6, 1,800gps, Arm Slot, Gain a +2 item bonus to melee rolls) and give it to one of our melee strikers or defender.

Can anyone use it?

[quote="bradly"]

bradly wrote:when I was updating my character in character builder, it showed I had an empty slot in my spellbook. I'd like to fill that with 'Wizard's Escape'.

I think the empty spellbook slot was an error.

Miri should have two 2nd level utility powers in her spell book. Shield and Feather Fall.

Miri should have two 6th level utility powers in her spell book Dimension Door and Wall of Fog.

You can trade out Feather Fall for Float or Wall of Fog for Wizards Escape.

Mick wrote:Candelos
+1 Str/Con
Feat Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)
replace Two-Weapon Defense with Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)

Weapon focus doesn't stack with Eladrin Soldier. They're both feat bonuses.

Did you want to keep Two-Weapon Defense or swap in a different feat?

I've updated each of the PCs in the Character Builder and the MapTools tokens for each PC.

Still outstanding:
I'm using the default selections for Quinn unless David chimes in...
I'm waiting to hear back from Mickey on Candelos feat training.

Magic Item - Hey, if no one else wants anything, Sonya will have Miri make her a Heavy Throwing Shield please...6th Level, 1,800 GPs.

Ken, when I leveled up Sonya, I also selected a background benefit for her, + 2 to athletics.

Cool! I forgot I get a feat at 8th.
I'll take Weapon Expertise (heavy blade)

Mick wrote:Cool! I forgot I get a feat at 8th.
I'll take Weapon Expertise (heavy blade)

You previously selected Weapon Expertise, but also wanted to retrain Two Weapon Defense for Weapon Focus.

Weapon Focus gives a +1/tier feat bonus to damage.
Eladrin Soldier gives a +2 feat bonus to damage.

Thye don't stack so you'll need to keep Two Weapon Defense or retrain to something else.

Dwarmaj wrote:I think the empty spellbook slot was an error.

Ah, I found the error... the version on the character builder I have didn't have Dimension Door. I still don't like Wall of Fog though, let's substitute that one for 'Wizard's Escape'. Thanks.

Teramotos wrote:Magic Item - Hey, if no one else wants anything, Sonya will have Miri make her a Heavy Throwing Shield please...6th Level, 1,800 GPs.

Alright, since I haven't heard any objections, here's what we'll do:

Miri will take the 'Amulet of Mental Resolve +2', craft herself the 'Boots of the Fencing Master', and add 175gp worth of residuum to her treasure;

Kaddim will recieve 'Goggles of Aura Sight' and add 1,775gp worth of residuum to his treasure;

Sonya will take the silver 'Acidic +2' Broad Sword, the heavy throwing shied, and add 975gp worth of residuum to her treasure;

Candelos will recieve 2,775gp worth of residuum for items to be crafted later;

Thia will recieve an 'Amulet of Protection +2', and 2,775gp worth of residuum for items to be crafted later;

Quinn will recieve the 'Horn of Summoning', and 2,775gp worth of residuum for items to be crafted later.

bradly wrote:Alright, since I haven't heard any objections, here's what we'll do:

Miri will take the 'Amulet of Mental Resolve +2', craft herself the 'Boots of the Fencing Master', and add 175gp worth of residuum to her treasure;

Kaddim will recieve 'Goggles of Aura Sight' and add 1,775gp worth of residuum to his treasure;

Sonya will take the silver 'Acidic +2' Broad Sword, the heavy throwing shied, and add 975gp worth of residuum to her treasure;

Candelos will recieve 2,775gp worth of residuum for items to be crafted later;

Thia will recieve an 'Amulet of Protection +2', and 2,775gp worth of residuum for items to be crafted later;

Quinn will recieve the 'Horn of Summoning', and 2,775gp worth of residuum for items to be crafted later.

Thanks for breaking it down. Makes it much easier for me to update the PC.

[quote="Dwarmaj"]

bradly wrote:Thanks for breaking it down. Makes it much easier for me to update the PC.

No problem... I like making things easier for the GM! :-)

...Oh, and the amulet for Thia came from Miri's items.

...if I'm not mistaken, it is a Bastard Sword + 2 Silver Acidic, not a Broad Sword + 2 Silver Acidic, right?

Teramotos wrote:...if I'm not mistaken, it is a Bastard Sword + 2 Silver Acidic, not a Broad Sword + 2 Silver Acidic, right?

Yes, Ferrence's sword was a Bastard sword.

9th level changes...

Let me know what changes you want done to your PC as they go from 8th to 9th

I would like an "Ebberon Shard of Lightning Level 2"

Kaddim will:
Retrain Level 2 Sword Burst and replace with Lightning Lure
Select Lightning Strider as my Swordmage Daily 9

Is it just getting a daily power at level 9? I will take attacks on the run as my level 9 daily.

...train away intimidate and take Heal in its place.
Take White Raven Strike as my 9th level Daily Attack Power.

Dwarmaj wrote:9th level changes...

Let me know what changes you want done to your PC as they go from 8th to 9th

Miri will learn "Wall of Fire" for her 9th level daily power.

I've updated Kaddim and Thia's tokens/Character Builder.
I have enough info for Sonya.

For Miri I need to know the other 9th level power you'll select. Wizards get two daily/utility powers for each slot and memorize only one each day. So far you've selected Wall of Fire.

For Candelos I need his daily power and whether or not he'll retrain something.

Candelos will
Daily power be "Final Rebuke"
Retrain "Two weapon defense" to "Initiate of the Faith"

Dwarmaj wrote:...For Miri I need to know the other 9th level power you'll select. Wizards get two daily/utility powers for each slot and memorize only one each day...

Oh yeah... Ice Storm (with WoF memorized). Thanks!

Mick wrote:Candelos will
Daily power be "Final Rebuke"
Retrain "Two weapon defense" to "Initiate of the Faith"

According to the Character Builder... Candelos retrained Two Weapon Defense to Weapon Focus at 8th level.

Did you want to retrain Weapon Focus to Initiate of the Faith?

I'll replace Two Weapon Fighting with Initiate of the Faith.
I don't think TWF and Weapon Focus stack.