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    Post by Dwarmaj Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:16 pm

    To slay the creature outright, does that have to be a single blow, single attack power, or can it be over several rounds of Coup de Grace?


    Coup de Grace
    Sometimes, you have the opportunity to attack a foe who is completely defenseless. It’s not chivalrous to do so, but it is viciously effective. This action is known as a coup de grace.

    COUP DE GRACE: STANDARD ACTION

    Helpless Target:
    You can deliver a coup de grace against a helpless enemy adjacent to you. Use any
    attack power you could normally use against the enemy, including a basic attack.

    Hit:
    You score a critical hit.

    Slaying the Target Outright:
    If you deal damage greater than or equal to the target’s bloodied value, the target dies.

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    Post by Kenji Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:32 pm

    My original thought was one blow, but thinking on it more, I think that's just residual ruling from previous editions. Logically, it seems like cumulative damage would make more sense. Then again, not waking up from sleep when wounded does not make sense. If anything, any damage should AT LEAST allow an extra save imo...
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    Post by Dwarmaj Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:17 pm

    I believe any attack from the power used to CDG would be a critical.

    Having it be cumulative would be nice, but I think it's on a per standard action attack. Makes it very difficult to CDR a high level monster since you'd have to do several hundred HP in damage in a single attack. Though I think Aya came pretty close to (or did enough and didn't know it) slaying that one NPC outright.
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    Post by Teramotos Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:53 pm

    In my opinion, it would have to be a single Attack Power (e.g. One Standard Action). If a single attack power allowed several blows, the (critical) damage from all the blows could be added to determine if the bloodied value had been reached for an outright slaying.


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    Post by Dwarmaj Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:30 am

    I don't remember how much damage I did to the unconcious monster in the second encounter, but I think I did enough to kill it outright. If not it was very close...
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    Post by Teramotos Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:13 pm

    I actually thought the same thing during the game and started to look up the rule and got distracted..."SQUIREL!!!"


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