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126 Re: Diablo 3 on Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:49 am

I do ok...

My wizard can pretty much walk though Act 1 and half of Act 2 and mow everything down with little effort. I still have trouble with the latter Acts, but can get through them.

Last night while playing in a public game a guy joined with his Demon Hunger (lvl 60/65 paragon), he walked through pretty much everything in Act 3. The rest of the party was sprinting trying to keep up with him while at the same time trying to fill their pockets with all of the loot that was raining down in his wake. It was pretty impressive.

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127 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:12 am

Wow. Either the Witch Doctor is very tough, I forgot how easy normal/nightmare levels are after Hell/Inferno, I'm getting better, or Ken's idea of a big gem in new characters is powerful. I have a +300 life gem in my weapon and a +23% exp in my helm and I went from 16th to 45th walking through Act 2 normal to Act 3 nightmare. The only thing that kills me is a combo: boss and minions plus computer screen crashes.

I think my monk had the hardest time reaching 60, still needs to beat Diablo Hell, my wizard was notably more powerful beating Diablo Hell on her first try, but my witch doctor seems notably more powerful again. Is that true? Thoughts?

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128 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:20 pm

Having big gems in socketed items and low to mid levels is huge.

Life On Hit for a level 20 char should be around 30hp or so. Having 300 means you'll never/rarely need healing potions.

I can't count the number of deaths my wizard has had between levels 1-30. The Demon Hunter I'm now leveling up has died once in that same level range.

I haven't played the Witch Doctor yet, but I think all classes would benefit greatly from having large gems in sockets.

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129 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:30 pm

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Yes, the amethyst gem makes a huge difference, at all levels, until the 2nd chapter of Inferno. Then you get pwnd, unless your equipment is good.


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Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
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130 Re: Diablo 3 on Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:30 am

After spending all my gold on equipment plus around $100k repairing equipment from dying about 20 times, I finally beat 'the Butcher' in Inferno! :-) (Witch Doctor) Now, I'm dead broke and just as Ross said, I'm getting my ass kicked in Inferno Act II.

If I go back to act I to farm gold, can I skip the Butcher and go back to act II, or do I have to try to beat him again? I barely have enough gold to repair my equipment now ($37k)... :-/

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131 Re: Diablo 3 on Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:46 am

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Yes, you can go back to previous levels and play them, and then skip levels to where you were at before.

You know it's much more money efficient when fighting Elite groups that you have trouble beating, to just find a good place to re-spawn, and log out of the game and start the level over. Of course if your dying from the Butcher this doesn't work. However, if I hit a hard combo just log out and back in to get different monsters. Another good way is to just run from them and don't bother killing them.

You can also have them chase you to a location out of the way and die. Then they stay there and you can respawn and just avoid them.


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Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
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132 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:06 am

Played in a game with Brad last night. I think he was surprised at how often my wizard died. affraid

The end of Act 2 and beyond is very difficult unless you have really good gear.

For Act 1 and about half of Act 2 I prefer the Archon build since I can walk through most mobs. Past the midpoint of Act 2 the only wizard build that worked for me was the CM/melee build where you continually freeze the monsters and whittle them down. It's slow, but I only have trouble with moltant and fire chains groups.

Got Brad to Act 3, but he may want to do Act 1 farming until he can afford equipment upgrades.

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133 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:28 pm

I sure was! I think you died 3 times (to my like 20). Yup, I think Act I is about my speed right now... I tried briefly to secure the "breech at Bastion Keep", I couldn't get past the firey floor! Sad

My Witch Doctor could sort of handle act I... "Warrior needs gold, badly..."

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134 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:41 pm

When I do Act 1 farming I usually do:
0. Set quest to Imprisoned Angel, Cursed Hold
1. Go to Whispering Forest and kill 3-4 elites
2. Go to Cemetary and clear out the elites in each of the three crypts.
3. After I have 5 valors, clear the event that is located in one of the three crypts
4. Portal to Halls of Agony 2 and make your way to the Butcher.

After killing the Butcher, sell stuff, then log out, reset quest, and repeat.

I think I've killed the Butcher 100+ times... I usually make 120k-150k on each run. The better your equipment, the quicker the run will be. I think it takes me about 30m to do a run.

Some people have a second set of gear with lots of magic/gold find for Act 1 runs. It'll have lower DPS, but you'll get better stuff and more gold.

I've been mostly doing public Act 3 games and getting more gold, but the same type of items.

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135 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:06 pm

Ken, there's a flaw in that plan... It took me over 20 tries to kill the Butcher! I'll try your plan, but may stop short of him before restarting...

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136 Re: Diablo 3 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:46 pm

The Butcher doesn't really drop that much. Normal elites are almost as good if you have 5NV.

Once you get the hang of the Butcher's patterns he's a lot easier.

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137 Re: Diablo 3 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:42 pm

Finally killed the Larder. He was even tougher than the Butcher. I'm starting to suspect that the bosses generally get tougher in each act...

On that note, there is a huge leap in difficulty between Act I Inferno & Act III Inferno!...

I'm broke again.

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138 Re: Diablo 3 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:44 pm

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Play act 2 to each money. I'm at 1 million after one day of farming.


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Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
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139 Re: Diablo 3 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:30 am

I don't have a character able to farm in act 2.
I get killed to much. Ending up paying as much to repair items than I earn.

In Act 1 my DH can cruise thru without dying. It only about 100K/hr
My monk has good ac & resistance but low damage. It take forever to kill than in act 2.

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140 Re: Diablo 3 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:58 am

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My Demon Hunter can't do squat in Act II. I haven't had luck finding any good builds. Finally gave up until I get more gold for her.

My Monk was getting killed a lot, but then I changed up his build a bit and now he does really well solo in Act II. If I'm with others I tend to die more because the bump in monster power ends up messing things up for me.

Here is my build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Saturnus-1572/hero/7607878


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CHARACTERS:
Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn


Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
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141 Re: Diablo 3 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:58 pm

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Okay, I think I have a better build for my Demon Hunter. Give this a try Mick, and let me know how it works for you.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Saturnus-1572/hero/10891006

Using Vault and Impale you should be able to take out monsters quicker than if your just shooting them.
Vault has the benefit of burning them with 1,500% weapon damage, as well as moving you away from them.
Main points are your get away abilities also inflict damage.


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Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn


Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
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142 Re: Diablo 3 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:25 pm

My DH skill set is similar to yours but I don't pick the traps.
your item are much better then mine and your resist all is double mine.
My DPS seem oddly higher then yours. Im currently about 92k.

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143 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:52 am

When farming I still prefer Act 1.

With my Archon build I can clear Whispering Forest, Cemetary, Halls of Agony/Butcher in about 1/2 an hour. I normally get about 100k and lots of rares (1-2 AH worthy, the rest are sold for gold).

Another way to rack up gold is to join an Act 3 public game. If you're in with people who are much higher in level you end up just following them around and scooping up gold/items.

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144 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:28 am

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Give me a link to your character Mick, so I can compare us. I can't even come close to 92k.


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Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn


Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
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145 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:39 am

Ross wrote:Give me a link to your character Mick, so I can compare us. I can't even come close to 92k.

Holy crap! Nice job Mick! I can't even come close to the ballpark... My dps is in the upper 20s only.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Spur29-1116/hero/7002194

After 60, the + levels are only for magic/gold find? Or do hits or anything else go up?

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146 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:52 am

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Ah. I see how you did that. You center in critical hits. I've been concentrating on defenses. I'll have to see if I can mix the two.


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CHARACTERS:
Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn


Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
View user profile http://twitter.com/NWGamerDude

147 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:22 pm

bradly wrote:After 60, the + levels are only for magic/gold find? Or do hits or anything else go up?

Just magic/gold find. Though as you advance you'll find/afford better equipment.


DPS/Defenses is a trade off.

I remember my wizard having 40k DPS when he first started Act 1 Inferno, but only ~300 resist all and about 15k HP. I'd kill anything not close to me, but die constantly to elites/bosses.

For Act 3 & 4, you'll definitely need high defenses...

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148 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:21 pm

I have no problems in act 1.

In act 2, I see a lot of jailers, waller with molten.


My DH feels soft with 3790 AC and 385 resist all.

Need to get better armor, resist all and pump up her hit pts.

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149 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:31 pm

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Resist All seems to be more important than the AC. I can usually stay away from general Melee especially with Vault and Smoke Screen.


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Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
Battlefield 4 Soldier: Saturnicus
Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
XBox GamerTag: Drizityn


Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
View user profile http://twitter.com/NWGamerDude

150 Re: Diablo 3 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:48 pm

From reading the forums, it seems that 10AC=1ResistAll

With buffs on, I believe my wizard has 6k Armor, ~800ResistAll, 56k DPS, 26k HP.

In this config,
Act 1 no problem
Act 2 usually no problems, though a few elites combos are tough
Act 3 very difficult, normals are tough, die a lot to elites
Act 4 haven't tried in this build.


When playing Act 3&4 I play my defensive build:
With buffs on, 7k Armor, ~900ResistAll, 25k DPS, 19k HP.

It takes a while to kill things, but very few things can kill me (usually just moltant and fire chains).


I still have quite a few items in my storage that I don't use... If there is anything specific that someone is looking for let me know.

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