Diablo 3

That's my Demon Hunter that's doing that, and she's at level 56 I believe.
Does anyone know which is better for DH's? 2-Hand Xbows or a 2-Handed weapon with a quiver? or is it basically dependent on your gear?
I'm using two hand Crossbows now, and just switched from Bow/Quiver combo. My DPS went up but that's mainly because of the nice quality weapons I bought.

I'm using Bow/Quiver combo but I bet it depends on the gear.

Haven't played a Demon Hunter yet...

For my wizard I use a 1-handed weapon (wand, sword, ax) in my main hand and use a source or shield in my off hand.

You can get about the same DPS with a 2-handed, but you loose out on all the addituional bonuses an off-hand item can provide.

For me, some of the bosses are a bit too tough to stand and fight. For them I use a shield (for the added defence and block chance) and do a lot of hit and run while my Hydra wears them down.

Dwarmaj wrote: ...and do a lot of hit and run while my Hydra wears them down.

That's what I do, but in addition to hit, run, summon Hydras, we need to add in die, refresh, repeat...

If there's an item with cetain stats anyone want me to keep an eye out for let me know.

Barbs want strength and vitality and resistances. Other than that I have no idea.

Dwarmaj wrote:If there's an item with cetain stats anyone want me to keep an eye out for let me know.

I have under 100k gp, so save anything exceptional with sockets and I'm sure it's an improvement over what I've got...

bradly wrote:
I have under 100k gp, so save anything exceptional with sockets and I'm sure it's an improvement over what I've got...

You may want to try gold/item farming for a bit. Hell Act I should work until you have items that allow you to farm Inferno Act I.

Basically I just:
1. Create a new quest for Act I: "Imprisoned Angel"
2. Port to the Forgotten Cemetary
3. Clean out each crypt (You should be able to get 3-4 Nephalem Valor)
4. Port to the last waypoint.
5. Clean out each level on your way to the Butcher.

With 5 NV you get a lot of gold and item drops. Most items are sold to the vendors, but you'll find an occasional nice one that can be sold on the AH for a decent price.



Found a few items with 100+ Dex, a few others with 50+ Dex with ~30 Resist All.
A 1-handed monk weapon with 500+ DPS

Found a couple of decent Demon Hunter items (nice 1-handed bow 700+ DPS and quiver).

Haven't found much a Barbarian could use...

How close is everyone else to getting to Inferno?

I see several other have made it to level 60, not sure if they've finished Hell yet though.

Not close at all. I'm in Act4, but got there from a full party adventure and can't kill anything solo. Went broke repairing my equipment. Playing my wizard now (44) in NM.

I solo up to half way through act 4 and hit a wall.
Doing some farming now but only getting about 120K per hr.
It seem item prices have been going up too.
To get a good upgrade on stuff I have, I'll have to pay millions for each piece.

I don't believe it. Do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N0mnn2p0u0&feature=share

I believe it, there have been some reports in credible news sources about the deaths before. Addiction is addiction no matter what the "drug".

Not sure if it's a bug...

But if you want to level up really fast you can put a high level ruby into a socketed helm.

Leveled my barbarian up to 60 in a week, he had +23% exp.

Gems have a level limit but I don't think the game looks at it.

I haven't tried it out for a low level character, but you should be able to put high level gems into low level socketed weapons.

My barbarian currently uses two weapons. In his offhand he has a low level dagger with +600 Life on hit and a socketed gem that adds another +300 LoH. Would have been very nice to have during the lower levels...

Patch 1.04 is out...

I believe the biggest is that you can now level up to 100. From 61-100 you gain magic/gold find chance and stat bumps.

The added more powerful legendaries.

And tweaked a few classes (my wizard build got a nerf )

They also said the elites monsters are a little weaker, and don't scales as much when you group.

Just found out that you can view your character offline.

Here's my wizard:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dwarmaj-1261/hero/13399540

Here is my profile.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Saturnus-1572/

Massacre...




Not sure if the scoundrel expected more from me or the monsters...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/malechui-1394/

I have a PC in Act 1 of Inferno now! I went from barely surviving Act 2 Hell solo, to chasing Ken's PCs trying to keep up as he cleared Act 2-3 at a full sprint. It felt like the almost last scene of "Last of the Mohicans" as he killed everything as he ran by. He left me to kill Diablo solo, but thanks to his handmedowns, I was able to beat him! :-) (DPS went from 4500 to 18000)

Now if I could only get rid of those computer crashes... :-/

I am not in love with my computer!

Sorry for dropping out on you tonight Ken. D3 was very glitchy for me today.

Ross, no, turning down the graphics helped in AH, but not in game. AARRGGH!!

No problem, was about time for me to take off anyways.

I was able to get through the timed treasure vault. Mostly because I got lucky and picked the correct route, and had teleport so I could skip past several of the monster groups.

bradly wrote:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/malechui-1394/

I have a PC in Act 1 of Inferno now! I went from barely surviving Act 2 Hell solo, to chasing Ken's PCs trying to keep up as he cleared Act 2-3 at a full sprint. It felt like the almost last scene of "Last of the Mohicans" as he killed everything as he ran by. He left me to kill Diablo solo, but thanks to his handmedowns, I was able to beat him! :-) (DPS went from 4500 to 18000)

Now if I could only get rid of those computer crashes... :-/

Glad I could help.

One thing you may want to do is reevaluate your spell/skill selections.

I know I had to revise mine several times while going through Inferno.

Take a look at...
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#acXiOk!ZUY!ccaaYc

That build is similar to your, but should do more damage.

Diamond Skin: you may want to switch to Crystal Shell since it will double the amount of damage you can absorb.
Hydra: Patch 1.04 increased the damage done by Arcane Hydra. Might be worth looking into.
Energy Armor: May want to go with Force until resists are a bit higher.

Skills:
Temporal Flux will allow your arcane spells (Hydra, Magic Missile, Arcane Orb) to slow targets, this gives you extra time to hit them again.
Glass Cannon increases the damage of all your powers. It will decrease your armor, but Blur counters that.

Just a thought...




I have two builds I normally play.
Inferno Act 2 and below I normally play a CM/Archon build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#kUXmVO!bgY!ZYaccc

Inferno Act3 & 4 I normally play a CM/Melee build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#VQXYhO!bgW!cZaZcc

I prefer the CM/Archon build, but died too much in Act 3 (even with 50k DPS and 1100 Resist All). The CM/Melee build is very hard on the hands as you have to constantly press mouse/keys to keep the monsters frozen and deal damage. It's very effective though against almost all monster types. It also requires a critical hit chance 35+, but doesn't require much damage. Some get by with as little as 14k DPS, it just takes longer to kill stuff, but since they're frozen and can't hurt you, it works.

Will do. I think it prudent to heed the advice of someone who beat Inferno!

I do ok...

My wizard can pretty much walk though Act 1 and half of Act 2 and mow everything down with little effort. I still have trouble with the latter Acts, but can get through them.

Last night while playing in a public game a guy joined with his Demon Hunger (lvl 60/65 paragon), he walked through pretty much everything in Act 3. The rest of the party was sprinting trying to keep up with him while at the same time trying to fill their pockets with all of the loot that was raining down in his wake. It was pretty impressive.

Wow. Either the Witch Doctor is very tough, I forgot how easy normal/nightmare levels are after Hell/Inferno, I'm getting better, or Ken's idea of a big gem in new characters is powerful. I have a +300 life gem in my weapon and a +23% exp in my helm and I went from 16th to 45th walking through Act 2 normal to Act 3 nightmare. The only thing that kills me is a combo: boss and minions plus computer screen crashes.

I think my monk had the hardest time reaching 60, still needs to beat Diablo Hell, my wizard was notably more powerful beating Diablo Hell on her first try, but my witch doctor seems notably more powerful again. Is that true? Thoughts?

Having big gems in socketed items and low to mid levels is huge.

Life On Hit for a level 20 char should be around 30hp or so. Having 300 means you'll never/rarely need healing potions.

I can't count the number of deaths my wizard has had between levels 1-30. The Demon Hunter I'm now leveling up has died once in that same level range.

I haven't played the Witch Doctor yet, but I think all classes would benefit greatly from having large gems in sockets.

Yes, the amethyst gem makes a huge difference, at all levels, until the 2nd chapter of Inferno. Then you get pwnd, unless your equipment is good.

After spending all my gold on equipment plus around $100k repairing equipment from dying about 20 times, I finally beat 'the Butcher' in Inferno! :-) (Witch Doctor) Now, I'm dead broke and just as Ross said, I'm getting my ass kicked in Inferno Act II.

If I go back to act I to farm gold, can I skip the Butcher and go back to act II, or do I have to try to beat him again? I barely have enough gold to repair my equipment now ($37k)... :-/

Yes, you can go back to previous levels and play them, and then skip levels to where you were at before.

You know it's much more money efficient when fighting Elite groups that you have trouble beating, to just find a good place to re-spawn, and log out of the game and start the level over. Of course if your dying from the Butcher this doesn't work. However, if I hit a hard combo just log out and back in to get different monsters. Another good way is to just run from them and don't bother killing them.

You can also have them chase you to a location out of the way and die. Then they stay there and you can respawn and just avoid them.

Played in a game with Brad last night. I think he was surprised at how often my wizard died.

The end of Act 2 and beyond is very difficult unless you have really good gear.

For Act 1 and about half of Act 2 I prefer the Archon build since I can walk through most mobs. Past the midpoint of Act 2 the only wizard build that worked for me was the CM/melee build where you continually freeze the monsters and whittle them down. It's slow, but I only have trouble with moltant and fire chains groups.

Got Brad to Act 3, but he may want to do Act 1 farming until he can afford equipment upgrades.

I sure was! I think you died 3 times (to my like 20). Yup, I think Act I is about my speed right now... I tried briefly to secure the "breech at Bastion Keep", I couldn't get past the firey floor!

My Witch Doctor could sort of handle act I... "Warrior needs gold, badly..."

When I do Act 1 farming I usually do:
0. Set quest to Imprisoned Angel, Cursed Hold
1. Go to Whispering Forest and kill 3-4 elites
2. Go to Cemetary and clear out the elites in each of the three crypts.
3. After I have 5 valors, clear the event that is located in one of the three crypts
4. Portal to Halls of Agony 2 and make your way to the Butcher.

After killing the Butcher, sell stuff, then log out, reset quest, and repeat.

I think I've killed the Butcher 100+ times... I usually make 120k-150k on each run. The better your equipment, the quicker the run will be. I think it takes me about 30m to do a run.

Some people have a second set of gear with lots of magic/gold find for Act 1 runs. It'll have lower DPS, but you'll get better stuff and more gold.

I've been mostly doing public Act 3 games and getting more gold, but the same type of items.

Ken, there's a flaw in that plan... It took me over 20 tries to kill the Butcher! I'll try your plan, but may stop short of him before restarting...

The Butcher doesn't really drop that much. Normal elites are almost as good if you have 5NV.

Once you get the hang of the Butcher's patterns he's a lot easier.

Finally killed the Larder. He was even tougher than the Butcher. I'm starting to suspect that the bosses generally get tougher in each act...

On that note, there is a huge leap in difficulty between Act I Inferno & Act III Inferno!...

I'm broke again.

Play act 2 to each money. I'm at 1 million after one day of farming.

I don't have a character able to farm in act 2.
I get killed to much. Ending up paying as much to repair items than I earn.

In Act 1 my DH can cruise thru without dying. It only about 100K/hr
My monk has good ac & resistance but low damage. It take forever to kill than in act 2.

My Demon Hunter can't do squat in Act II. I haven't had luck finding any good builds. Finally gave up until I get more gold for her.

My Monk was getting killed a lot, but then I changed up his build a bit and now he does really well solo in Act II. If I'm with others I tend to die more because the bump in monster power ends up messing things up for me.

Here is my build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Saturnus-1572/hero/7607878

Okay, I think I have a better build for my Demon Hunter. Give this a try Mick, and let me know how it works for you.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Saturnus-1572/hero/10891006

Using Vault and Impale you should be able to take out monsters quicker than if your just shooting them.
Vault has the benefit of burning them with 1,500% weapon damage, as well as moving you away from them.
Main points are your get away abilities also inflict damage.

My DH skill set is similar to yours but I don't pick the traps.
your item are much better then mine and your resist all is double mine.
My DPS seem oddly higher then yours. Im currently about 92k.

When farming I still prefer Act 1.

With my Archon build I can clear Whispering Forest, Cemetary, Halls of Agony/Butcher in about 1/2 an hour. I normally get about 100k and lots of rares (1-2 AH worthy, the rest are sold for gold).

Another way to rack up gold is to join an Act 3 public game. If you're in with people who are much higher in level you end up just following them around and scooping up gold/items.

Give me a link to your character Mick, so I can compare us. I can't even come close to 92k.

Ross wrote:Give me a link to your character Mick, so I can compare us. I can't even come close to 92k.

Holy crap! Nice job Mick! I can't even come close to the ballpark... My dps is in the upper 20s only.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Spur29-1116/hero/7002194

After 60, the + levels are only for magic/gold find? Or do hits or anything else go up?

Ah. I see how you did that. You center in critical hits. I've been concentrating on defenses. I'll have to see if I can mix the two.

bradly wrote:After 60, the + levels are only for magic/gold find? Or do hits or anything else go up?

Just magic/gold find. Though as you advance you'll find/afford better equipment.


DPS/Defenses is a trade off.

I remember my wizard having 40k DPS when he first started Act 1 Inferno, but only ~300 resist all and about 15k HP. I'd kill anything not close to me, but die constantly to elites/bosses.

For Act 3 & 4, you'll definitely need high defenses...

I have no problems in act 1.

In act 2, I see a lot of jailers, waller with molten.


My DH feels soft with 3790 AC and 385 resist all.

Need to get better armor, resist all and pump up her hit pts.

Resist All seems to be more important than the AC. I can usually stay away from general Melee especially with Vault and Smoke Screen.

From reading the forums, it seems that 10AC=1ResistAll

With buffs on, I believe my wizard has 6k Armor, ~800ResistAll, 56k DPS, 26k HP.

In this config,
Act 1 no problem
Act 2 usually no problems, though a few elites combos are tough
Act 3 very difficult, normals are tough, die a lot to elites
Act 4 haven't tried in this build.


When playing Act 3&4 I play my defensive build:
With buffs on, 7k Armor, ~900ResistAll, 25k DPS, 19k HP.

It takes a while to kill things, but very few things can kill me (usually just moltant and fire chains).


I still have quite a few items in my storage that I don't use... If there is anything specific that someone is looking for let me know.