Buffy-verse thread of discussion and planning.

Ashe certainly does.

Ashe will take 5 potions of healing. I will look and see what other potions might be of benefit.

Thanks!

I only used one last battle, but have a feeling I'll need more this time...

Can you make Angelus 3 healing potions.

Thanks

Ashe will take 5 potions of healing. I will look and see what other potions might be of benefit

No problem. Remember I can only brew up to level 6 potions.

Can you make Angelus 3 healing potions.

Got it.

Krystoff wrote:Yeah lets stick together. If it wasn't for the hole to vampire town I would say lets stay here. As it is we should probably burn the place.

Well since you guys killed Luke, we'll have a different final encounter and it'll come to you instead of what I had planned. Let me know where your PCs want to stay so I can work that into the next encounter. Note: Somewhere close to UCLD campus is generally good since a lot will be going on near there.

Giles will rent a house just off campus a couple blocks if some PCs want to stay with him, the girls are in a freshmen dorm (coed, top 3rd floor corner unit) at UCLD.

Telgarth would like 3 healing potions, I still have 1

I assume you don't have time to make an item. If you do, I'd like a +1 sunblade broadsword.

jibuki wrote:I'd like a +1 sunblade broadsword.

9th level item, Ember's only 6th.

Also, as Ashe learned a few times & Telgarth experienced once, it does put the bull's eye right on you. Vamps will generally try to flee out of the sun, but if that's not an option (which the PCs rarely offer), putting it out is high priority.

True, but my melee abilities maximize the radiant damage vs undead. Plus I don't have to activate the light if Ashe has his up

The item is only a 4th level item as a +1

Sunblade Level 4 Uncommon
This heavy golden sword attacks with the power and intensity of the sun, burning nearby enemies.

Price: 840 gp
Weapon: Heavy Blade
Enhancement: +1 attack rolls and damage rolls
Critical: +1d6 damage
Property: This weapon can shed bright or dim light up to 20 squares. You control the brightness and range of the light.

Power (At-Will • Radiant): Free Action. All damage dealt by this weapon is radiant damage. Another free action returns the damage to normal.
Power (Daily • Radiant): Standard Action. You cause motes of light to burst out and attach to your enemies. Make an attack: Close burst 1; targets enemies; Strength vs. Reflex (apply a bonus to the attack roll equal to the weapon’s enhancement bonus); on a hit, the target takes 1d8 radiant damage.

Yes, I can make you the sun sword if we have the time.
It takes the same time as a potion which is one hour.
In order of request:
Ember 4 healing & 2 nec resist = 6 hrs
Ashe 5 healing = 5 hrs
Angelus 3 healing = 3 hrs
Telgarth 1 sun swd & 3 healing = 4 hrs

Working 8hr days crafting she should make everything by St Vigeous (3 nights away).

Mick wrote:Yes, I can make you the sun sword if we have the time.
It takes the same time as a potion which is one hour.
In order of request:
Ember 4 healing & 2 nec resist = 6 hrs
Ashe 5 healing = 5 hrs
Angelus 3 healing = 3 hrs
Telgarth 1 sun swd & 3 healing = 4 hrs

Working 8hr days crafting she should make everything by St Vigeous (3 nights away).

You just might be meeting a new bad guy on the night prior to St Vigeus, which leaves 16 hours of crafting time. Telgarth can only have 2 of his 4 items... sword & healing, or 2 healing?

sword and potion

Psst, hey Brad. Ford stopped making Broncos in 1996. Also, they were mostly 2-door SUVs, making them inconvenient for personnel transport compared to 4-door ones.

Most government (FBI, etc.) SUVs nowadays are GMC Suburbans, and wealthier security forces (for celebrities and whatnot) often use Cadillac Escalades.

Just FYI.

Okay, we'll say they're GMC suburbans, still all black with dark tinted windows. (thanks!)

bradly wrote:

Dwarmaj wrote:

bradly wrote:I'll allow a save v ref as a minor action to grab an item mid-dusting and save it.

What is a "save vs ref" in 4.0?

Is it 10+ like all other saves or is there a specific Ref defense we have to hit?

yup, standard DC10+, specified 'ref' in case there are bonuses...

There are no bonuses to "ref" any more. Though there are lots of items/abilities that grant bonuses to saves.

Angelus gets a +2 bonus to all saves while bloodies. He also has one item that lets him re-roll a missed save an another that can grant a re-roll with a +5 bonus.

Sure, that all counts, but you're risking a pretty nice item if you still miss...

Trevor wrote:Minor action - Spirit of the Keeper on Angelus. He gets to spend a healing surge and gains an additional 1d6 HP.

Thanks for the heal... you may want to wait until I'm negative though. Angelus fights better when bloodied or even negative, just can't get too far negative.

I'll also heal more the farther negative I go. If I'm at -10hp and you heal for 20, that's a 30hp swing.

Can a Mage Hand be used to grab a item from a dead but not dusted vamp?

Effect: You conjure a spectral, floating hand in an unoccupied
square within range. The hand picks up, moves, or manipulates
an adjacent object weighing 20 pounds or less and carries it up
to 5 squares. If you are holding the object when you use this
power, the hand can move the object into a pack, a pouch, a
sheath, or a similar container and simultaneously move any one
object carried or worn anywhere on your body into your hand.
As a move action, you can move the hand up to 5 squares. As
a free action, you can cause the hand to drop an object it is
holding, and as a minor action, you can cause the hand to pick
up or manipulate a different object.

Mick wrote:Can a Mage Hand be used to grab a item from a dead but not dusted vamp?

Seems like it'll work... What are the rules to grab a worn cloak from a healthy Vamp? (We may have to modify the rules a bit...)

I'm going to say that...

any fire, radiant, or holy water, attack that drops a Vamp below 0 dusts a Vamp, no option for non-lethal blow.

any edged weapon attack that drops a Vamp below 0 can be a decapitating strike (default), or a thrust/downward slice etc, that won't dust it. Player's option.

any ranged wooden projectile attack that drops a Vamp below 0 is either a through-the-heart dusting blow (default), or aimed away from the heart with -2 to the attack to not dust, with a 1-2/d20 chance to 'miss' per range increment to hit heart anyway and accidentally dust. (of course the archer can also use aluminum arrow shafts too, which doesn't dust).


...but I'm making this all up, so any input is welcome. Sound good? Suggestions? Should edged weapons have a -1 attack to purposely not dust?

I think simplest is best...
After that consistancy.


There is no penalty for striking to knock out non-buffyverse undead or any other NPCs. Do we really need special rules for Buffyverse?

Other than not being like the show, is there a reason to dust items when a vampire is dusted? You could say that mundane items get dusted, but magical don't. That would make things much easier for PCs that use weapons, fire, or radiant damage. Note: I think my PC is the only one that can't dust a vampire without using a wooden stake.

Dwarmaj wrote:
Other than not being like the show, is there a reason to dust items when a vampire is dusted?

Magic items are MORE important than mundane since the campaign backstory is that Vampires long ago suppressed the use of magic and has since convinced the living that magic doesn't exist. One of the reasons they've kept the secret for so long is that they control (almost) all the magic items which turns to dust as they do... plausible deniability. Any living who sees a Vamp or magic is ridiculed with no (usually) evidence to show for it.

Plus, it's an extra challenge to overcome...

...but okay, no penalty for 'subduing' with wooden projectiles just like swords & slashing weapons.

Yeah, penalty for subduing with bows doesn't make much sense. If you're just aiming to 'kill' them the head is still a larger target than the heart.

Also, you said it's a minor action save vs ref to grab an item off a vamp mid-dusting. What is required to just take something off of a 'killed' vamp?

Trevor wrote:Yeah, penalty for subduing with bows doesn't make much sense. If you're just aiming to 'kill' them the head is still a larger target than the heart.

Also, you said it's a minor action save vs ref to grab an item off a vamp mid-dusting. What is required to just take something off of a 'killed' vamp?

Same thing as an immediate reaction. (What Telgarth attempted but rolled a '9' when Ember Magic Missiled the broadsword Vamp). Good point re: size of head v heart. I was thinking aim center middle.

Whoops! the above should be reversed. a grab mid-dusting is an immediate reaction, otherwise minor action on your turn.

bradly wrote:Whoops! the above should be reversed. a grab mid-dusting is an immediate reaction, otherwise minor action on your turn.

Brad,

Aura should have gotten the broadsword since she used a minor (instead of an immediate reaction) to grab it.

Krystoff wrote:

bradly wrote:Whoops! the above should be reversed. a grab mid-dusting is an immediate reaction, otherwise minor action on your turn.

Brad,

Aura should have gotten the broadsword since she used a minor (instead of an immediate reaction) to grab it.

She rolled a '2'. Minor on your turn or immediate reaction upon 'dead' or 'dust', you still need to make the saving throw (to simulate the Vamp trying to hang on it).

That's the part I didn't see; that you still need to make the saving throw.

bradly wrote:'little girl' corpse has nice ring, minor action to grab)

I know it doesn't follow the story you want... but as soon as Wendy dropped to zero/died she should revert to her normal form.

Change Shape (polymorph)
At-Will Minor Action

Effect: The succubus alters its physical form to appear as a Medium humanoid until it uses change shape again or until it drops to 0 hit points. To assume a specific individual’s form, the succubus must have seen that individual. Other creatures can make a DC 30 Insight check to discern that the form is a disguise.

Dwarmaj wrote:I know it doesn't follow the story you want... but as soon as Wendy dropped to zero/died she should revert to her normal form.

Yup... Future polymorphers when killed will all revert to a Human(oid) form too, fyi. Not any 'monsterous' form as a rule. In the Buffyverse, besides your own powers (& items), it will be very difficult to find "proof" of Undead or Demons or magic.

Note: I purposely picked gargoyle, floating skull, and shapeshifting Succubus to compliment the Vampires specifically because when they got killed, their remains would be something mundane, i.e. a broken statue, a non-floating skull, a dead girl. Remember, magic is a long forgotten occult practice in this campaign, disbelieved as real by most. (Even though magic seems to come especially naturally for you Slayers...)

bradly wrote:9 take shots, the 1 at Ember 4+12=16vAC-5 run miss, 2 fire at Blade 15+12=27, 16+12=28, hit/hit for 20 damage. Blade is bloodied. 2 fire at Telgarth 15+12=hit exactly, 12+12=24 miss. Telgarth takes 14 & has 1/64, though will regen 2... 2 shoot at Ashe & both 16+12=28 hit for 10+8=18 damage. Last 2 shoot at Aura and 8+12=20, 12+12=24 miss/hit for 12 hits.

Are they using handguns or assult rifles?

I thought handguns were equivalent to handcrossbows (1d6+dexMod).

Rifles would be like either longbows or great bows (1d10+dexMod or 1d12+dexMod).

Are they using magic guns?

Ken, Really as long as your using the Monster's stats it really doesn't matter what kind of weapon you say it is. It's really whatever you want them to be. If you had a Manticore you could say he had a Machine Gun instead of throwing quills.

Ok, just odd...

A weapon in one creatures hands does more damage than the same weapon in another creatures hands that has superior stats.

Unless you want to go through every power and weapon and convert them this is a simple solution. Its up to Brad how detailed he wants to make things.

Ross wrote:...this is a simple solution...

Concur. PCs have ability stats, class features, feat adds, etc, NPCs simplify all that & instead have "crossbow bolt 2d8+3" to simulate 1d8 for crossbow plus feats et. al. and to Ross' point, yes, I just changed 'crossbow' to 'AR' in name only for storyline.

I can't remember. Is Mercury a Succubus or a Vampire.

Vampire with several special abilities added in...

If we want to get the ring off her we are all going to have to concentrate our fire on her this round.
Or abandon it and run for it.

Everything I do is radiant, plus she will take some when her turn comes up. I am going to have to catch it when she is dusted. I do get +2 to AC at least this round for using an AP.

You can still choose if your doing lethal, vs just making her 'dead'.

I thought Brad said that radiant or fire will dust a vampire regardless.

That's what I thought as well.

Oh, that's right. It's only if your using a bladed or piercing wooden item.

How many items did we get from the vampires?

I remember 2 swords, 2 rings, 1 cloak. Was that it?

Dwarmaj wrote:How many items did we get from the vampires?

I remember 2 swords, 2 rings, 1 cloak. Was that it?

+3 carnage falchion
+3 Eldritch broadsword
+3 Raven's cloak
Ring of Dragonborn Emperor
Ring of Dragonborn Emberor
Death Spiral ring

Don't remember exactly who's holding what item (but it might be important...). Btw, don't let the Mayor hear you say 'his gifts' were from Vampires!

I have one of the Dragonborn Emperor rings and the broadsword.

Dwarmaj wrote:

Ross wrote:Hate to say this, but I think Aura took 8 more damage when the Spirit was destroyed.

I don't think it'll matter much...

There's no one left that can heal and no time to get them.

I think anyone down is going to be captured.

I kind of agree
Ember could minor: pull healing potion, standard: feed one of them, move: move or jump down the tunnel

But that person wouldn't likely get away.

Brad, how many spaces from the closet cop to the farthest down PC?

Mick wrote:
Brad, how many spaces from the closet cop to the farthest down PC?

15-21 squares from Angelus.

jibuki wrote:I have one of the Dragonborn Emperor rings and the broadsword.

Hmm, there are 6 items and 6 PCs...

Since they're all paragon items each PC should probably get one item.

I got a +2 cloak last encounter and a it looks like the +3 cloak will be mine. I'll have to get the +2 dusted unless someone wants it for the 1/5 price...

Wish we had a better way to handle upgrading items...

Looks like I may be getting an item I don't need.
I had the Ring of the Dragonborn Emperor on my wish list but when I equiped it, it didn't stack with my Ruin staff.

Mick wrote:Looks like I may be getting an item I don't need.
I had the Ring of the Dragonborn Emperor on my wish list but when I equiped it, it didn't stack with my Ruin staff.

Correct, item bonuses don't stack.

, one of the reasons I have PCs made all the way up to 30th. That way I can plan out ahead of time what they'll need (works/doesn't work) and what to put on their wish lists.

What kind of neck item does Ember wear?

Would the Raven Cloak work out better for her?

+3 to non-AC defenses
Resist 5 necrotic/cold
Daily power to reroll a save with a +5 bonus or +10 if it's a death save.

I have the +2 version on.

I have a couple of close burst powers (one AtWill), but rarely use them...

Just +2 protection

Sounds like a trade that would benifeit both Ember & Angelus.
She's OK with the trade.