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    Post by Dwarmaj Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:35 pm

    A-Team

    Leader:


    Striker:


    Defender:


    Defender/Striker:


    Controller:


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    Post by Dwarmaj Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:16 am

    Cool and the gang:

    Leader:

    Leader #2:

    Striker #1:


    Striker #2:


    Striker #3:


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    Post by Dwarmaj Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:26 am

    Striker:
    Willow (Melee Ranger):


    Build Notes:


    iPlay4e


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    Post by Dwarmaj Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:29 am

    Extra level 11 Chars

    Controller:

    Leader:

    Striker:


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    Post by Dwarmaj Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:33 am

    Reserved


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    Post by Dwarmaj Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:49 am

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    Post by Dwarmaj Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:49 am

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    Post by Mick Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:22 pm

    Ken, what's the reason for posting your builds?
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    Post by Dwarmaj Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:22 pm

    Mostly boredom... (lots of time during the Thanksgiving break and not much else going on)

    Was reading a thread on party optimization and wanted to bring together several builds that worked well together.

    Having a set of pre-made characters will also help get a new player started. It's much easier to de-level an existing build than it is to create one from scratch.

    The Leader build is a slightly modified "Killswitch" from the CharOp board that has pretty much the same leadership skills as a normal Leader, but provides a massive Initiative boost to the party and can setup the battlefield early to give the PCs an advantage (2 PCs can get MBAs before their turns even come up).

    The Striker is one of the highest DPR builds available. She can go melee or ranged.

    The Defender is one I pulled together from several other builds. Using BB for an AoO is great and he gets to do it whenever someone moves adjacent. Then he can knock them prone and push them away so that they have to come back and provoke again. A Dragonborn would have been better, but I couldn't get the stats to work out.

    The Wizard I found on one of the boards and optimized a bit. After I built her it seemed that Brad's old Wizard from 3.5 wouldn't be that much different from her. Almost all of her spells impose a -2 (-4 vs her) penalty to hit and give her Combat Advantage for her next attack. Starting to like this build more and more and may play something similar in the future.


    Any suggestions on making the group better at working together would be appreciated.

    They'd do quite a bit more damage if they all shared the same elemental damage/vulnerability exploitation, but that could hurt them if they ran into a group immune/highly resistant to that type. As it is three of the group focus on Psychic, one uses cold, one uses lightning.

    The swordmage/warlock works well with the group, but a second Leader may be better.
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    Post by Krystoff Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:30 pm

    I'm not sure if there are other feats for different elements but Ashe has this feat:

    Pervasive Light:
    Benefit: When you hit a target that has vulnerability to radiant damage with an attack that does not deal radiant damage, you deal extra damage equal to that vulnerability.

    (Note - the wording above was taken from a forum thread, not from WoTC so it might be slightly different)

    The best part of that feat is that it deals damage equal to the vulnerability as untyped. If they have resistance (from a feat, power, potion, etc) they will still take the extra damage. And if you can add the vulnerability you will always do the extra damage even if they are immune to radiant.

    Doesn't help if they are neither resistant or you can't add the vulnerability.

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    Post by Dwarmaj Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:26 pm

    The feat is nice, but only helpful if you're fighting something with radiant vulnerability and your attack doesn't do radiant damage.

    Lots of radiant vulnerability in Buffyverse, but the vast majority of Ashe's attacks do radiant. You'd have to use a power that doesn't do radiant and turn off the radiant power of your weapon.

    Adding another damage type might be better. If they're immune to radiant and your attack does radiant & fire, they still take damage. Though I'm not sure if the extra damage from vulnerability would kick in.

    With the feat they would take vulnerability damage.

    Normally, resistance doesn't count unless they have resistance to all damage types dealt. I'm not sure how the DM would rule if they have resistance and vulnerability to the same type...
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    Post by Dwarmaj Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:25 pm

    Created a few level 11 PCs in case we can get a player that doesn't have a time to make a PC.

    Level 11 PCs
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    Character sheet
    Campaign: 4e-Against the Giants
    Character Name: Kazoo Noisemaker
    Player Name: Ross

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    Post by Ross Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:10 am

    Wow. You do have a lot of time on your hands.  

    You should play DnD Neverwinter.


    _________________
    CHARACTERS:

    Silk - Human/Hexblade [4e-Dark Nights Rising Campaign]
    Kazoo - Halfling(Kender)/Hybrid(Rogue/Druid) [4e-Against the Giants]
    Morbius Von Kas - Vryloka/Blackguard [4e-Rainbow Warriors Campaign]
    Man'Tis Man'Todea - Thri-Kreen/Berserker [4e-Slave Lords Campaign]
    Nathan Grey - Ardent (4e-Terran One Campaign)
    Walt Dixon - Bladesinger (4e-Terran One Campaign)
    Shandral Aurlong - Human/Sorcerer [5e-Horde of the Dragon Queen Campaign]
    Danilo Rand - Monk/Human [5e-Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign]
    Battlefield Soldier: Saturnicus
    Diablo III Battletag: Saturnus#1572
    Neverwinter: @bobpatrick.com
    XBox GamerTag: Drizityn


    Kazoo the Kender: "Hmm, I'll take....the Wand of Wonder." The rest of the party regretted giving Kazoo the first treasure pick.
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    Post by Dwarmaj Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:33 pm

    Ross wrote:Wow. You do have a lot of time on your hands.  

    You should play DnD Neverwinter.

    Some time... Not enough for a video game though (at least the amount of time I would play  Rolling Eyes )

    Also, some of the players that don't play a lot don't have a subscription to get to the character builder and would have a hard time making/updating a PC.

    Having a set of pre-gen'd PCs "might" make it easier for others to join.
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    Post by Dwarmaj Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:48 pm

    Sample SG party

    1 Leader
    1 Controller
    1 Defender
    2 Strikers

    Added an extra Defender (Paladin) if needed


    Leader:
    Controller:
    Defender:
    Striker 1:
    Striker 2:

    Paladin Defender:

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