Charge question...

Setup:
PC with Boots of Mighty Charging (allows the use of any AtWill on a charge)
PC with Twin Strike
PC with items giving +2d6 damage on a charge

Would the above PC do an extra +2d6 on each hit with Twin Strike or only on the first? Also is the +1 to hit for charging on each attack or just the first?

Horned Helm:
Property: Your charge attacks deal 1d6 extra damage.

Both attacks would be considered charges, so it should be +2d6 per attack roll.

Twin Strike is a single power and I'd consider you to be charging with both attacks. On TW, damage is reduced compared to a regular attack as you don't add your STR bonus, right? Also, HQ damage is added only once, right?

I'd say you'd get the extra damage to both attacks and get the extra + 1 to hit with both attacks.

Correct, you don't get your Str or Dex modifier damage with Twin Strike.

But there's lots of other stuff that does add... Angelus was doing 2d8+60 with two additional flurries for 28 each. Twin Strike can be deadly...

That would work well with my avenger build too!

Mick wrote:That would work well with my avenger build too!

Avanger with Twin Strike?

It'll work with multiple damaging attacks, but not a "normal" avenger oath strike since damage is only rolled once.

A Half-Elf or Revanant (Half-Elf) Avenger with an AtWill TwinStrike would be deadly...


I was actually thinking about a Battlemind using Brutal Barrage (4 damaging attacks with an AtWill power)...

Ken,

I know you were using a horned helm to get additional damage, but what else? - 2d6

Avalanche Hammer?

I'm looking to go the other way and charge up my melee basic attack. Any ideas?

...if you guys charge up your melee basic attacks, then that would make Sonya, Kenneday and any other Warlord I might play very happy.

The PC I was playing the other day was using a Avalanche Hammer Maul.

Base damage is 2d6.
Avalanche Hammer +1 does 2W damage on a charge
Horned Helm give +1d6 on a charge.

But since my PC is Con/Wis I had to take Melee Training CON to get a decent "to hit", but only get 1/2 Con Mod for damage. Not sure why they made the feat that way...


The PC I'm switch to has average MBA +23 to hit, 1d10+14.
But against my LD (Lawbreaker's Doom) target +23 to hit, 1d10+29 (slowed)

The PC would benefit a lot from static damage bonuses, though bonuses that apply to damage rolls would be somewhat helpful...

jibuki wrote:I'm looking to go the other way and charge up my melee basic attack. Any ideas?

Different classes/races have different options available to them.

Some options that all have are:
Item Bonus (Iron Armbands)
Feat Bonus (Weapon Focus)
Cold Vulnerability (Lasting Frost + Cold Weapon/Frozen Whetstone) doesn't stack with radiant vulnerability


A few items options are:
Dragonshards (cold or radiant)
Guantlets of Brutality will give you +5 vs a prone target
Gloves of Ice give extra damage on cold attacks (using a cold weapon/whetstone counts as a cold attack)

Some Paragon Paths add extra damage on attacks.
Some Feats add an untyped bonus for certain situations (Crippling Crush)
Some Feats add elemental damage, many are racial feats though (Genasi, Tiefling)

The WotC optimization board has a list someehere, may be able to find it on the Char Op Wiki

The PC I'm switch to has average MBA +23 to hit, 1d10+14.
But against my LD (Lawbreaker's Doom) target +23 to hit, 1d10+29 (slowed)

Is this at 17th?

Mick wrote:

The PC I'm switch to has average MBA +23 to hit, 1d10+14.
But against my LD (Lawbreaker's Doom) target +23 to hit, 1d10+29 (slowed)

Is this at 17th?

Yes...

Here is a link to a build that is trying to optimize MBAs.


http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25711401/One_Stroke_To_Kill_Them_All_-_Half-Orc_AvengerArtificerArdent_ChampionLorekeeper,_227_DPR&post_num=1#463520933